System Of A Down
Well, I MYSELF couldn't be more anti-republican if I tried... maybe that's why I really like SOAD?
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Sk8a H8a, i'm sure the video of Avril Lavigne performing SOAD - Chop Suey live, is on the internet, as is her crappy cover of Metallica - Fuel.
So, who else can't wait until the second half of the album (Hypnotize is it?) is out? I know that I am definately going to buy it.
>>By RustyBlade (Tuesday, 21 Jun 2005 22:33)
They rock ............ not much 2it
>>By An Evil Girl (Thursday, 23 Jun 2005 18:18)
Mezmerize has definitely made me look forward to Hypnotize
I just don't wanna know about Avril covers any more... this is getting out of hand
>>By Sk8a H8a (Saturday, 25 Jun 2005 00:48)
gosh.. didnt know anything about avril lavigne covering soad songs...
when i got mezmerize a few weeks ago, i wasnt that pleased..maybe a bit disappointed. listening to it more often, it got better. i still think, that the old ones are definitely better than the new one. its not bad, even though i can't find these amazing tunes, as in "spiders" "streamline" and many others. songs like radio/video and b.y.o.b. are good, i like to hear them in clubs, but umm... well yea, the old ones were better.
hard to say exactly the things i want, with my bad english.. oh well..
i'm also looking forward to hypnotize..
>>By alibabi (Sunday, 17 Jul 2005 23:06)
Mezmerize is an amazing album, I absolutely love it, and I can't wait to get Hypnotize. Can't wait until September, gonna see 'em live. YES!!
>>By Urbane (Sunday, 31 Jul 2005 05:46)
So if I am a republican Rusty, I can not like there music?
>>By Broker (Sunday, 31 Jul 2005 18:42)
It doesn't mean that you can't listen to them, it just means you have a crap choice of politics :)
>>By Bitch Fit (Sunday, 31 Jul 2005 22:06)
Oh Ok thanks for the info. It's good hearing from the "tolernt left", aye?
>>By Broker (Monday, 1 Aug 2005 02:38)
System of a Down is nothing more than a puerile mallcore band, who, instead of producing music that has some artistic merit or quality, promote their half-baked and sensationalist political ideas through music which is nothing more than immature and pointless.
>>By Obfuscated (Monday, 1 Aug 2005 04:04)
immature and pointless?
have you heard prison song? forest? american dream denial? deer dance?
all of these songs have very straight-forward points. . .which are easy to understand. . .and honestly. . .they cover topics that most people in america are at the very least aware of. . .
not really what you would call sensationalist. . .considering these things are now a staple in everday life. . .
maybe you think their songs are pointless because you have failed to realize the point!
>>By drowninginflame (Tuesday, 2 Aug 2005 03:04)
By "immature and pointless" I was talking about the music, not the lyrical content. The lyrics do have straight-forward points, yes, but they are generally just clichèd anti-establishment points.
>>By Obfuscated (Tuesday, 2 Aug 2005 14:56)
well. . .alright then. . .you got me. . .
no argument here. . .
>>By drowninginflame (Tuesday, 2 Aug 2005 20:16)
quite mainstream now..pisses me off
>>By RaNcId_StAr (Tuesday, 2 Aug 2005 22:03)
I have just listened Mezmerize and firstly I have to say that I'm not a big fan of soad but like some of their songs. anyway in mezmerize most of songs have really amazing melodies and the gıitarist is very talented he rocks, but somehow I don't like the vocal. I can give 3/5 to this album, my favourites are BYOB and sad statue
>>By feanor_arcamenel (Tuesday, 2 Aug 2005 23:24)
they're not really pointless... sure, they're not actually making people more aware of political issues but they're at least not letting them get covered up - I feel it should be mentioned that the lyrics in their first album turned out to be exactly right so they're obviously doing something right
As for Daron's vocals, sure they're not good in the traditional sense but the point is that they sound weird and that's the idea! And pointless music? Violent Pornography is an awesome sounding song and it's insanely simple... I mean, I simply can't play guitar but I can play that (:
>>By Sk8a H8a (Friday, 5 Aug 2005 17:22)
Well, to call SOAD's music politically cliched and typical is a bit rash, considering most of the people on this forum don't know why SOAD formed.
Their message in the beginning (and still is) is all about equal rights and anti-war, but WHY does SOAD preach this message? They are Aremenian descendents.
Not familiar with Armenians?
In the early years of WW1, Turkey led a massacre of the Aremenian people, killing over 1.5 million innocent Armenians. Yet to this day, Turkey STILL denies their involvment in this Genocide. Another interesting fact is that when Hitler was addressing his advisors, he assured them that the West would not interfere with their Genocide of all Polish speaking people because who recalls the genocide of the Armenian people?
Also, Turkey took it a step further by laying claim that the Armenians massacred Turkish people, despite the fact that the Armenian peninsula sits between two Turkish-populated areas.
Anyways, SOAD does have a good message, and they do do their research. Besides, is it so bad to fit a cliche? Especially if that cliches insists on peace and acceptance? You don't have to create your own cause to support one.
Also, Broker...no, if you're Republican... guess what? You can STILL listen to whatever you want. Although, I didn't expect too many Republicans to enjoy SOAD's music, considering their lyrics are typically left wing "liberalism," but hey! That's what makes America great, we can all like what we like, even if it contradicts us. Its human nature. Its freedom. Lets fight for oil to have it!
>>By RustyBlade (Saturday, 13 Aug 2005 03:43)
Rusty ,what else should we do with oil? I mean what do you think we have it for, do you drive, do you heat your home, do you eat? The whole world use's oil. Besides the oil arguement is outdated and false. I mean even if you hate Bush for whatever reason, oil is the last of the reasons he went to war. But nice try!
>>By Broker (Sunday, 14 Aug 2005 23:10)
Well, the fact that a large portion of Bush's friends are in the oil industry, and that Saudi Arabia controls a large portion of our economy and they were denied access to Iraq's oil fields... but hey, you're right...oil never played a factor. I must say, the support for the idea of Weapons of Mass Destruction was overwhelming...I mean, the UN said that it was highly unlikely for there being WMD's! I mean, that is great backup for the idea. Oh, and the Iraqis sure wanted us to come, that was, and still is, very clear.
As for the use of oil, yes...I see your point, I use it...and i need it. Yet, instead of investing billions of dollars to find alternative methods...lets use THAT to fuel the war machine, I mean come on! Countless Bush Supporters who own military manufacturing companies will benefit... thank goodness for Bush, helping out the little guys!
To say that Oil never played a factor is very a very ignorant thing to say. Look at the Vietnam war... offshore oil NEVER played a factor there. That's why the side we were fighting for shot at us....
Every war we have gone into has been for power, look for example at our involvement in the Russian Civil war back in the early 20th century. Do you honestly think we sent troops to Russia to help out freedom? No, every war we have gone into has been for power...THAT'S WHY WE FIGHT WARS, MORON!
>>By RustyBlade (Tuesday, 16 Aug 2005 06:42)
"Moron"? You where doing pretty good right up to that point. So why the anger bro ? Was just about to change my voter registration card to commie, and then you should your tolerance. And you guys say you're a diverse listening bunch!
>>By Broker (Wednesday, 17 Aug 2005 20:23)
Yes... very good Broker. Belittle my entire argument because I used an insult used commonly by 5th graders. Very good. Perhaps next time you'll actually address the issues.
Yes... I don't support war... I must be a commie....
Anyways, I don't really see the point in arguing with you, because I know that i'm right... and you know that you're right, and nothing we say is going to change anything. SOAD is a good band, with a good message... I think that's all that matters? I mean, afterall... this is a music discussion page, not a political forum.
>>By RustyBlade (Thursday, 18 Aug 2005 03:23)
Bravo ,and right on. Good Luck!! SOAD is fun to listen to and that I will agree!
Sorry for the darn typo in my above post. Hate that when it happens.
>>By Broker (Thursday, 18 Aug 2005 16:38)
Using the word "moron" does not imply intolerance for morons, you moron... SoaD's music is great and not the least bit politically clichéd - even if their message were clichéd (which it isn't), the lyrics themselves are highly original
>>By Sk8a H8a (Friday, 19 Aug 2005 18:11)
Wooooow - Hypnotize is stunning; everyone go out and buy it!
>>By Sk8a H8a (Tuesday, 15 Nov 2005 01:16)
Already have, I love it.
>>By Urbane (Thursday, 17 Nov 2005 23:29)
Alright, I have to admit that I am only half way through listening to Hypnotize and that I really didn't care for Mezmorize, BUT am I the only one that hears the Dead Kennedys whenever I spin a SoaD disc? Come on, there are OK, but nothing new here. Go listen to Jello and his DK's. If you like this sort of thing you will be very pleased to discover a worthy old dinosaur.
>>By Krite (Friday, 2 Dec 2005 03:04)
I haven't made the connection at all, and I have albums of both bands... They're both good, but I don't think SoaD was even motivated by Dead Kennedys. They're both pretty original bands, I think....
>>By Urbane (Friday, 2 Dec 2005 04:11)
I own albums of both band, and I had not thought about them being similar until now that you mention it, Krite.
I don't think they are similar at all, actually. Maybe only in their political leanings. As I see it, and I think I'm not the only one, Mr. Biafra's lyrics are way funnier (and smarter) than those of Tankian & Malakian.
>>By CHARLOS (Friday, 2 Dec 2005 06:26)
Although there are some humorous lyrics in SoaD's songs, as well, if not quite as often.
But yeah, definitely more intelligent, which could be because Dead Kennedy's were born speaking english, and Serj and Darren were born in Armenia, although I don't know how much of an effect that's had on their english speaking abilites. They don't have an accent, it's just a thought.
It could also be that Dead Kennedy's were just smater, too.
>>By Urbane (Saturday, 3 Dec 2005 21:22)
Ehm, they were not born in Armenia. They are from L.A.
Anyway, I heard that Tom Morello and Serj have recorded something together. Does anyone know if that's true?
>>By CHARLOS (Sunday, 4 Dec 2005 16:56)
Tom Morello and Serj Tankian are the 2 main members of the "Axis of Justice", which I'm sure you can find more on if you Google it... it's more of a political outlet than a musical one, although it focuses on the support of musician's, but they don't do a lot of music...
>>By Sk8a H8a (Monday, 5 Dec 2005 10:45)
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