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>>By Campking (Thursday, 9 Oct 2003 11:07)
Arnold Schwartzenegger...from Terminator... and a reply to what sk8ter h8ter from the last page: "..you can't divide countries into 'free' and 'not free'..." I wasn't dividing them I was grouping them to back up my statement which you sabotaged and mis-quoted... I simply meant that the governments of countries who call themselves "free"** are less corrupt
** A free country is one who allows it's residents and legal immigrants to choose what job they want, who they want to marry, and what they want to say.
In this way I can "divide" them if I fucking want to
>>By nosupremists (Friday, 10 Oct 2003 03:13)
the corrupt government is trying ti get me.
>>By Edwardo (Friday, 10 Oct 2003 06:40)
oh no!
>>By Edwardo (Friday, 10 Oct 2003 06:40)
Listen up y'all. Take a second look at the sixties and seventies hippie movement. They too were inspired (misled) by music. If music is your God and guidance then you are not a true thinker, letting others dictate your opinions. Take a look at the exact opposite views out among the internet and your answers lie somewhere in the middle. How many hippie bands lied about drugs not being harmful? And wasn't their message anti-war,anti-government, anti-society? History repeats itself is my point. These bands are ripping off past stratagies to market their music. Same fad, another time. Here we go again.
>>By hydro (Monday, 3 Nov 2003 21:15)
Anti Flag Sucks. In fact, all punk sucks. I couldn't think of a shittier genre.
Punk fans think they're "enlightened" by being "non-conformists" or something equally stupid. What they don't realise is that, by claiming themself to be a nonconformist, they are merely conforming to a different standard.
Anti Flag's music is for people who failed school and want something to blame for them being stuck workng at McDonalds. So they blame the government. Dumbasses.
Like some other guy said, punk is just a fad.
>>By Insidious Tangerine (Monday, 3 Nov 2003 22:33)
I think anti-flag is good, but after awhile its annoying to hear them complain about the government....would you like some whine with that cheese? ha ha i love that statement
>>By Jackthepumpkinking (Tuesday, 4 Nov 2003 04:11)
I listen to a little of their music but ther band name is fucking dumb. If you dont like this country, go live in Iraq or some other third world country. I agree that our Government is messed up at times. But if you dont like it, go and try to put your country down in any other country in the world and we'll see how long you survive stupid fucks. Oh, yeah, and sing about something else besides the same thing over and over. All the songs that i have listened too are all the same. "Our goverment is garbage." thats their GD message. Fuck You, i dont agree with everything either, and you are entilteled to your opinion. But sing about something that people care about or something that is current. Sing about change in the Goverment. Maybe if you want something change, you might actually have to do something. So quit your whinning and bitching and get off your ass.
>>By BenBach (Tuesday, 4 Nov 2003 05:29)
A MESSAGE TO mr. FUCKNIG BENBACH...N THIS IS FROM THEE BOTTOM OF MY HEART: (listen here carefully, n please, w/an open mind n heart)....
simply strongly disagreeing w/our government is the pure basis for being american, and that does not make one anti-american. in these times of hate and pain, we certainly need a remedy to ease the pain...and expressing heartfelt views cannot be oppressed by socalled american defensiveness, you see??please see that nobody can completely agree w/america today, n if u do, great!that is: if you have thought it out. as far as anti flag, i appreciate their music and message, but you bashing anybody who disagrees w/the route bush is heading america makes you just as fucking antiamerican as the iraqis. do you not agree that america could be better??everything could always get better, and it's sad,close minded conservatives as yourself, or as youre coming off as, that will keep america from developing into something beautiful as we would all like it to be. no offense to anger you, just, please dont bash somebody's beliefs, ESPECIALLY w/gov issues, n ESP in these times. write back please if you feel so inclined. im would like to discuss these issues w/u. take care til then!peace!!!
>>By CALI2COLORADI (Tuesday, 4 Nov 2003 06:18)
ONE MORE THING (GROANS)he he, i know, ill try to be quick...
PUNK IS NOT A FAD, EMO IS A FAD, WHAT PUNK HAS BECOME IS A FAD, BUT TAKE DEAD KENNEDYS OR 4SKINS FOR EX. THAT IS WHERE YOU CAN TRULY APPRECIATE THE PUNK MOVEMENT. HOW CAN YOU (JACKTHE PUMPKIN, TANGERINE,HYDRO) DISS AN ENTIRE GENRE WHEN YOU'VE ONLY SKIMMED THE SURFACE??FUCK ANTIFLAG IF YOU WANT, BUT PLEASE GET INTO ANOTHER BAND,UNDERSTAND THEIR MESSAGES, AND GET BACK TO ME. im very american (well, mexamerican) and have a family history of civil rights movement (site:mendez vs. westminister board of edu) and willl defend anyone's right to voice their aesthetic opinions, ne one who doesn't use violence and death to get their messages across. SAVE THE ARTS!! oh sorry...ha, but my bro is in iraq right now, haven't heard fr him in threee days goin on four, and he usually emails his wife (i moved here w/her in colorado from cali) twice daily...but BUSH + DICK= SCREWED, but im still strugglin w/ his presence in iraq to this very nanosecond...ne advice???please, be open minded and open hearted. all we really need is love, truly....w/o the damn drug-induced orgies tho...ha!!too long again,sorry. PEACE!!
>>By CALI2COLORADI (Tuesday, 4 Nov 2003 06:29)
to anyone who care: heard from my bro finally (yeeeaaa!) BUT he has to patrol the border of syria next week....:(:(:(:(....sooo.....
FUCK BUSH!!!FUCK'M IN THE EAR!fuck him in thee other ear!!!!
PEEEEEACE!
>>By CALI2COLORADI (Thursday, 6 Nov 2003 03:33)
i agree with hydro and tangerene, except i like punk. i listen to anti flag all the time, i just turn on the karioke mode to remove the vocals to prevent me from destroying my stereo system. they are talented musicians, but i dont agree with the message.
i don't agree with benbach, evryone has freedom of speech, but society has big earmuffs.
>>By Edwardo (Saturday, 15 Nov 2003 02:12)
And CALI2COLORADI, y the hell did your bro join the army if you are so anti military.
>>By Edwardo (Saturday, 15 Nov 2003 02:16)
anti-flag rules the music is so good and there tunes are better! the have so much talent on there instraments (especially the bassest) the terror state is a reely good cd so go by it and listen to u can kill the protester u cant kill the protest. its a reely good song. i dont get all u fags i meen who cares wut theyre saying the music is good y fight about it?i dont care or understand wut there talking about. there music is awsome thats all that matters to me.so every1 just stop fighting. isnt that wut anti-flag wood want? anti-violence?
later ~thad
>>By Thad (Saturday, 15 Nov 2003 18:49)
o edwardos my brother and hes like a genis so listen to him i just a dumfuck!
>>By Thad (Saturday, 15 Nov 2003 18:51)
My bro's leaving for the army thursday! I'm glad he's leaving tho hes a dick to me! I'm not anti-military and shit becuz im going into the airforce and i just think anti-flag has some very good points and they are a great band i give them props
>>By Jackthepumpkinking (Saturday, 15 Nov 2003 20:54)
For the record Saddam was put in power by the american government (similar to what happened in panama but thats a differnt story) but when he didnt do what they wanted you had the gulf war, im not going to say he is a great leader but prior to the trade sanctions (set up by the american Government) Iraq had a high quality of living I do not agree with Saddam at all he has killed and tortured his people for what ever reasons( my brother was telling me something about how some of the people he gassed were rebels) however war isnt the solution I dont know a better one but I personaly belive that war will only cause more war look at World war 1 it set the stage for World War 2 millions of lives lost in such a few years). Sadam tortured his people obviously but the american government isnt any better some of you may have heard of Mr. Arrar from canada who was in new york deported from america into syria and tortured to the point where he would admit to anything ie. being a terrorist (which he isnt to the best of my knoledge just shows how racial profileing is going on and who knows they may have done this to many more Middle eastrn Americnas/Canadians), the canadian governments hands arnt bloody either, but the point im trying to make is that its fine to be totalitarian as long as you have americas best intrests at heart.
>>By Think (Monday, 17 Nov 2003 02:34)
anti flag are one of the best fucking bands out there. i love them and listen to them everyday. i know fans who have stopped listenin to them and who have just started. to me they will always be sooo fuckin badass. im seein them dec 6 and i cant wait till that day arrives. all the shit said about them to me is pointless. I play their songs on guitar all the time and there the best. and punk is the best and so are the shows. dont fuckin say that they are just stupid kids who smell and fucking cant do anything else but beat eachother up. fuck u! its so much more than that! sorry were not payin fuckin $40 to see like aerosmith in some huge stadium were u can bairly see the band and sayin i got my moneys worth. fuck that we unite with the band and its so much diff and to me and all the punx its fun. and btw, good charlotte sux sooo bad, along with simple plan. ive never heard of such sucky ass lyrics. i mean i guess they care for their fans and shit, but god whoever it was who said good charlotte was better than antiflag...omg i almost shit my pants laughin!!!! well congrats if u read that all. and to all the antiflag fans- you guys are awesome and keep listenin to them, cuz they kick ass and i cant wait till i see them. and all of u other ppl...fuck off man.
the people united, will never be defeated!
>>By su su (Monday, 17 Nov 2003 05:00)
hi my names candice im from australia
im a huge punk fan... i inherited it from my dad, i was brought up on punk and i just wanted to say that im hugely dissappointed by u guys who are saying antiflag suck and we're all god haters... i dont know why ur even on this website! all ur arguments are about spelling mistakes and basically telling fans that the band is shit... there's no actual substance in ur arguments. i dont know antiflag that well but i know a few songs and they are good... if u dont like the music then FUCK OFF and find somthing else to do with ur time, please. i'll never understand u people because ur all haters. u can call us god-haters but we'll call u punk-haters and thats just as bad. punk is about beliefs and standing up for your own ideas, not all punks are the same and therefore you can't catagorize them and say that ur going to KILL ALL PUNKS (fuckhead). punks stand for peace and freedom and punks stand against people like u.
to all the wannabe 'punks' on this site... punk is dying because of people like u. people who have made the punk 'look' respectable and almost commercial. it sickens me because punk is not about a look its about ideals and beliefs. somewhere along the line that has dissapeared and now it's just shit. u shouldn't have to try... just be
peace
candice
>>By punk rock 101 (Monday, 17 Nov 2003 06:32)
? And wasn't their message anti-war,anti-government, anti-society? History repeats itself is my point.
Actually not dear Hydro. The hippies were anti war yes (there you are right), they weren't anti society: they wanted to change the society to a more peacefull society, they never wanted to destroy society. neither were they against the government, most hippies believed in democracy, but they didn't believe in the chosen government of that moment, still they believed their should be a gov. the group of anarchists amongst hippies was quiet small.
If you by any chance would change the word hippie by Punks (and with that I mean the punks of the late 70ties, early 80ties) your statement would be right.
and on the subject drugs: Most of the drugs used in the 60ties/70ties are no more harmfull then is alcohol, most are even "better" for you then alcohol. The really harmful drugs only became popular in the late 70ties and the early 80ties, in a time when people had less and less trust in the future. Oke, I have to admit there were some people using heroine already in the early 70ties, but drugs like speed, cocaine, base and also heroine reached their peak of popularity in the 80ties, while LSD (acid), xtc and most of all POD (which is really not harmfull, and surely not anywhere near the bad effects that you get from alcohol) were the drugs of the 60ties/70ties.
And then I wonder why in heavens sake you pull in drugs when you wanna put down Anti-Flag, I can tell you that surely the singer won't use any drugs, besides the to him subscribed medicines against all the allergies and sicknesses he has, you are even asked not to smoke during an Anti Flag concert....
Democracy needs a conciense, people like Anti Flag, Jello Biaffra, Micheal Moore, Gore Vidal (and other True hearted Americans with a critical mind or view) form that conciense... Be happy they do, for otherwise there is no difference between living in America (land of the Free) and any dictoriale ruled country.
You don't have to agree, but at least think about what they say and check on it.
Gr.
>>By Campking (Monday, 17 Nov 2003 15:50)
First of all I'd like to say, even though I really don't like Bush, he's not as bad as a lot of people make him seem. It wasn't entirely his fault that we went to war, in fact, he may have had a very small part... Congress makes the decision when we go to war or not... Bush can't declare it... (Article I Section VIII) So if you'd like to blame someone blame the 532 members of congress that the people of the united states elected to represent them.
And the second thing I'd like to say, for a group of people that criticize emo for complaining, they whine about the government... just because it's not the same topic doesn't mean it's not complaining.
Third, as much as I hate war... and I would love world peace... it's pretty much inevitable... and even though our government maybe somewhat corrupt... it's better than a lot of governments... and WAR ensures our freedom... we get to live how we choose because of the men and women that go out and fight for us. If the US returned to isolationism we would get the shit kicked out of us by the other countries. No one would give a damn that the United States doesn't want to get involved... we have a reputation, and that reputation will get us into trouble... and we have to defend ourselves from threats, whether they occur in the present, or in the future.
Even though many lives are being lost right now as we speak... there are many more lives that are being saved. Many more people can enjoy more freedom because we went to war... and that's how it is... People join the military knowing that they might not come out alive... but it's a risk they're taking. Just be happy they aren't drafting people...
>>By Kittie5644 (Tuesday, 23 Dec 2003 07:25)
i've heard 3-4 anti-flag song, i think their lyrics are great. the style of music isn't exactly my favorite kind though, but i like their songs
>>By forgetmenot (Tuesday, 23 Dec 2003 11:13)
hey kittie5644, you need to pay attention to the news before you start making statements or posting opinons based on lies and/or inaccuracies. bush DID declare this war without congress' approval. if you, like most americans it seems, didn't have a two minute memory you might remember all the media coverage of this very act. he declared the war without a vote from congress. he said it was over in may. it still goes on with americans still dying for oil reserves and so haliburton and the carlysle group (both of whom dickhead cheney is on the board of and he is the former head of hailburton) can rake in hundreds of millions of dollars for themselves and their stockholders by supplying the defense supplies they provide as the largest defense contractors in the world. bush jr. is doing exactly the same shit his old man did to make millions for the same people (and himself) by going after hussein. if hussein was such a vile bastard, why didn't bush senior take him out when he had the chance? why didn't the military take him out then or in the last eight years? the same reason clinton ordered bin laden released after he was captured in 1998: it's all just an organized plan to shuck and jive us all. bin laden has been a cia operative since the early 80's. ever wonder why he wasn't captured? we have satellites in space .that can see a quarter on the sidewalk, but we can't find this guy? just keep up with things, and don't believe only what the coporate (meaning owned and ran by billionaires and multi-millionaires) media tell you. i find it far better to listen to what is being said by people on cable access shows who have nothing to gain and everything to lose. you cannot serve God and mammon.
>>By exile103 (Tuesday, 23 Dec 2003 19:45)
Anti-flags new cd is spectacular their lyrics are so good.
>>By Jackthepumpkinking (Wednesday, 24 Dec 2003 22:49)
i saw a-f last month and it was the best day of my life. i met all of them and they were the coolest guys. they are the best band live and all their cds are fuckin incredible.
>>By su su (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 04:07)
Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him.
-Martin Luther King Jr.
skizzy
>>By skizzy (Monday, 5 Jan 2004 19:05)
Hahaha yeah how can you say Bush didn't declared the war? Like how where do you even pull that from haha. Well, personally I love antiflag becasue of there view on the goverment which I agree with. I think that if you listen to them you should have some idea on what the word anarchy actually means. I'm not saying that if you arn't an anarchist and are not politically aware that you shouldn't listen to them because everyone has the right to listen to what ever they feel is awesome but I don't think you can fully understand their values.
>>By quitedifferent (Monday, 5 Jan 2004 19:26)
yeah anti flag is a good ass band i like that one song Die 4 your government thats a kickass song!!
>>By kingcobra_chic (Tuesday, 6 Jan 2004 03:33)
I love their new songs Turncoat and Rank and File those are so good!! They are just fantabulous!
>>By Jackthepumpkinking (Friday, 9 Jan 2004 22:45)
The newest album is absolute trash, coming from a punk rockers standpoint.
If you aren't a diehard a-f fan, or you're not really into the whole hardcore punk scene, I suppose it could be appealing.
It just doesn't have the same feel as "New Kind" or "Die for your gov't"
>>By justin sane (Saturday, 17 Jan 2004 05:11)
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