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I have never heard their music, but I support their comments, their opinion and their right to say what they feel. I think it's disgraceful the way "fans" turn against them because they have the guts to voice their opinion at a concert. Like True Freedom said, you were never true fans. You just followed the fashion whores and burn CD's and concert tickets if an artist you like clashes with your opinion.
The American way now seems to be "You are allowed 100% freedom of speech, except if you disagree with the President!" America used to be a relatively free country, but now it is turning into a facist, authoritarian police-state. Dare to disagree with the President's decision and you are spat on, labelled "unpatriotic" and "anti-American". The sooner Bush is gone the better and more power to the Dixie Chicks and Mike Moore!
>>By NewZealanderDude (Friday, 25 Apr 2003 10:44)
In the USA a person has a right to say what they wish. It is one of our freedoms. NOW, I don't have to agree with it. I thinks these 'Stars' should learn to watch what they say. Just because of social standings does not mean they should try to influence people with statements. This one backfired didn't girls? They should have known better. I will never allow a DC cd in my house or vehicle.
>>By kountry (Friday, 25 Apr 2003 18:35)
Freedom of Speech ???? Do any of you "supporters" of Natalie "Red" Maines have a clue as to what you're talking about?
No speech is free. I'm a native Texan and virtually every generation of my family, for over 150 years has had someone serve in the armed services in conflicts protecting that right. It's been paid for in blood, sweat and tears both on and off the battlefield.
My grandfather and his father before him spent their lives growing rice to feed this country and they paid for that right as well.
But, for those of you indoctrinated in government indoctrination day care centers, every right comes with responsibility. Each right you have is guarranteed to you on the merit system. Abuse the right and you should expect repercussions. Abuse it enough and it may be taken away from you.
For instance, you have freedom of travel, and, assuming you meet the minimum criteria to protect the safety of the public, you may be given a license to drive. If you thereafter ignore your responsibilty and drive so recklessly or intoxicated you kill someone, you will most likely have your right to travel greatly restricted by the government (i.e. the court, a branch of our representative government).
Freedom of speech comes with responsibility too. If you go out in public and scream racial epithets, do you really believe that everyone should just accept that you are exercising free speech and treat you the same as they did before you exposed youself? Surely not! and you know it!
Maines has the right to stick her foot in her mouth all she wants to. Worse, and you know this to be true, she has the right to say what she said to that audience in England because she knew it would make that particular audience approve of her more, and she is driven by both the money and an ego that craves attention yet is so short sighted that she did not conceive the bachlash outside of that tiny club.
She attacked the President personally. If she had said we don't want our country to go to war, she would not have gotten the response from the crowd that she wanted, but then again she would not have gotten the response from people in this country. Hence, it is not about war. It is about values or the lack thereof. It is about abusing responsibility and utter disrespect.
Now for the consequences. If Maines says something which offends me, then I have the right to stop supporting her career, not to threaten her or attack her or any any way act irresponsible in derogation of that right, but the right nonetheless to "vote" with my feet (if I don't go to a show or a store), or my wallet.
Exercising that right does not make me ignorant, however being unable to understand the correlation between rights and responsibilities - that is another story and perhaps further education is due.
Sorry girls, you did offend me. I did trash your CD's, and no, you won't be getting any more of my money, THAT is MY RIGHT!
>>By Richard Troell (Friday, 25 Apr 2003 22:17)
No matter what your opinion is you should not bash your pres. or your country in another nation in a time like this. Your "attention getter" should be about the troops that are risking there life to let you sound like asses! Thank You, dh & KS of greenbelt md
>>By dh & KS greenbelt md (Saturday, 26 Apr 2003 10:17)
When smith and wesson sold us out to that shit eating Clinton
I cut up my two S+W pistols on a band saw and buried them in
the back yard . Now all my dixie chick albums are in the same
condition. The Dixie Chicks have the right to say what ever they
want and they have the ability to get their views heard . The only
way I and the millions of people like me get heard is to withold
our hard earned money from people like the Dixie Chicks and the
Hollywood elite , and they are scared shitless.
>>By 44mag (Sunday, 27 Apr 2003 00:47)
There is no doubt that everyone in the U.S. has freedom of speech. However, as Trent Lott and the Dixie Chicks have discovered, each person may suffer consequences as a result of that speech. No one in the U.S. has the right to say whatever they please and NOT suffer consequences stemming from that speech. Of course, whiny liberals may wish for such a state of affairs, but it has never and will never exist. In addition, the fact that Ms. Maines decided to make her remarks in a foreign country, instead of in front of a packed arena in the U.S., smacks of hypocrisy and cowardice.
All patriotic country music fans should continue to boycott the Dixie Chicks.
>>By Bjornstam (Monday, 28 Apr 2003 21:33)
The Dixie chicks have always been horrible, there music is shallow and emotionless. All they have done now is speak out on something they have no clue about. If they have such a problem with America and the policies of this country, I suggest they move to Saudi Arabia where women are treated fairly....oops, I forgot that everyone gets oppurtunity in America. They should join Michael Moore and hide in the darkest corner they can find, never to return to the public eye. I could careless if you were against the war (which really, you shouldn't be, if anyone has read up on the crap that Hussein and his henchmen have done, they would know why we are there), but talk out before hand, and keep your mouth shut and supports our men and women on the ground when the shots are fired. Down with the Dixie Chicks.
>>By Bush Fan (Monday, 28 Apr 2003 23:45)
The Chicks have the right to say whatever they want, and they also have the right to pay the pri$e for freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not a guarantee to make money if so then that putz Micheal Moore would be a multi millionare doing stories about his mis-treatment of his employees.
Gosh I just love it when the loud mouths learn a good hard lesson in economics such as abuse your fans and you will rot on the vine.
Ca$h
>>By Ca$h (Tuesday, 29 Apr 2003 03:13)
No speech is free. there is only one currency that is universally accepted...blood. A lot of blood has been paid so that maines can open her mouth. She would deny the iraqi people the same freedom that has made her rich, famous, comfortable, and yes...fat. She has the right to free speech, but that is NOT the right to a receptive audience. She will never see a penny of my money, because I would bleed for her freedom, but she would never do the same or me (or any of you).
>>By idaho joe (Tuesday, 29 Apr 2003 07:13)
Those troops aren't dying for your freedoms, or freedom of speech. Many of them died for nothing, mostly due to the ineptitude of their fellow soldiers. In any case, this is not an act of self-defense, this is an act of aggression and imperialism against a third world nation in the interests of expanding markets. I would not die to fatten the wallet's of a few multinational corporation CEO's.
>>By Bosh (Friday, 2 May 2003 11:03)
Loads of entertaining jargon in here!
First off i'm sick of hearing this right or left wing BS! It's people like you that keep this Country divided! I'm an American and I vote for the PERSON whom I feel will do the best job. Just a few days after the tragic 9-11 event all I hear the politicians saying is "my constituent across the aisle". I guess saying "across the aisle" isn't as bad as right/left wing? Quit breeding right/left wing crap and start breeding AMERICANS!
Now to them Dixie Chicks. What she said was perfectly fine, but her timing was way off. There is a thing called etiquette and I do believe people expect celebrities to have at least a little bit of it. I won't buy a CD from them because I don't listen to country music. Most of it is way to repetitive for me. But if I did listen to country, I wouldn't buy a Dixie Chicks CD just for the etiquette lesson that apparently needs to be taught. I don't know if getting rid of the lead singer is the thing to do but from what I have read, the Dixie Chicks didn't just make it over night. So maybe if they did work very hard to get where they are, they just may consider their fans' feelings if they want to stay at the status they worked so hard to achieve.
You live and you learn, but, you will never learn if you don't care to learn, no matter your age.
P.S. Jane Bagdad! LOL!! That was funny! But I don't think the Chicks were quite as bad as Jane Fonda. What Jane did was UNACCEPTABLE and I am appalled she is even considered to be one of the top 100 women of the century! I wouldn't be surprised if Jane was a spy! What she did, I consider extremely traitorous.
>>By AllAmerican (Saturday, 3 May 2003 06:40)
Well, you know they can't sing, so how could they make an intelligent remark? Like duh! They should change their names to the "Dixie French Cups". Oh, PLEASE do not let them pose nude again, gross..............
>>By Ted (Sunday, 4 May 2003 16:21)
The Dixie Chicks are blowin it. I don't listen to them as much anymore because of there latest BS. I have been checkin out Ashley McIsaac's new stuff and he can really jam on the fiddle.
>>By Drake1 (Thursday, 8 May 2003 22:17)
The dixie chicks are a disgrace. They deserve the worst that America has to offer.
>>By spudhed (Wednesday, 14 May 2003 19:02)
WHAT DID THEY DO? HEY I MISS THE NEW SOMEONE TELL ME!
>>By curious (Saturday, 17 May 2003 07:17)
Put em on a plane and slingshot their butts east, let them live there for a while.
>>By guest (Tuesday, 3 Jun 2003 22:04)
Let's think about this a little - for a change. If Bush had a valid case for war, countries would have lined up to be involved. Instead, he lied about his reasons for the war. WMD's? They overestimated what Sadam had. France has more Islamic terrorism than we have. But they didn't buy Bush's arguements. (And if Bush is such a patriot, why did he skip out on his last year of his military obligation?!? How bout the bank he had that lost billions of OUR money, but never had to account for his actions?)
The Chicks are the real thing. They are actual musicians, they sing without backup, they don't come off like a Vegas lounge act and they paid their dues. Bless 'em. I wish there was more down to earth acts like them. I was never much of a fan until 'home'. It was astounding to hear, and await their next effort. But it's hardly country music, as defined by the country stations.
The Bush flap was fostered by Corporate Radio. Didn't ANYONE read about the memos they sent to their local stations asking the dj's to fan the flames to get more listeners? This was really sad - for radio in general, and country stations all over. Such manipulations - and you all fell for it.
My guess is that the complainers are also Clinton haters. He only lied about an affair. Bush lied about the war... And the tax cuts
>>By jondoe (Wednesday, 4 Jun 2003 22:25)
Millions are upset by a singer's comments? The U.S is really becoming a sad place: the imperialistic "War" against Iraq was a lie and a joke, but that seems to be irrelevant to most of the marginal thinkers in this country. The climate of "no dissent" cultivated by this administration is beginning to border on the terrifying. Clear Channel memos to fan the flames against the Chicks, lies about intelligence and weapons of mass destruction prior to the destruction of Iraq, Oil fields left alone next to gutted schools and playgrounds in Iraq, tax cuts in a struggling economy, the expanding deficit, the endless national debt, no domestic agenda to speak of, continuing health care crisis, every state in the union in the red, unemployment an all time high, "with us or against us" quasi-patriotic garbage - the list goes on . . . but , remember, these aren't real problems - what's important is to smash Dixie Chicks CDs.
>>By James B (Thursday, 12 Jun 2003 09:16)
I think that no matter what was said, the Dixie Chicks have the right to say what they want. I don't think sending them death threats, and smashing their c.d.'s solves any of the problems. For the people that say they hate the Chicks for what they said is unAmerican. What Natalie said didn't affect their music at all and all of their shows sold out. I will keep loving the Dixie Chicks and I support them 100%. It's so convenient for the press and media to pick up what they want to hear. There was an appology and they did say that they support the troops. It seems people forget that part. I am proud to be a citizen of the United States of America and to be a huge fan of the Dixie Chicks. GOD BLESS AMERICA and the DIXIE CHICKS!!!
>>By Chicks_Fan (Sunday, 29 Jun 2003 22:34)
I don't think its right that people are banning the Dixie Chicks' music just because of something Natalie Maines said. Where is the freedom of speech in that? I still support the Dixie Chicks 100%, no matter what other people think. Honestly, I agree with Natalie. She should be able to speak her mind, no matter what. There is something called freedom of speech, and she was using that and I don't think it's fair for people to ban their music just because of something she said. Whoever has thrown away their cds just because of that never was a true fan of them, true fans would always like their music. And how do you KNOW that they think they are smarter than everyone? They havent told you personally have they? No. Now everyone is judging them instantly because of something one of the group members said. Thats not right
>>By A true fan (Tuesday, 15 Jul 2003 04:20)
I can't believe so many of you say you live in a free country but it sounds like you would rather a dictator ruled. That way no one is allowed to speak out publicly against them. Have any of you noticed how they won't allow Bush to give many any press conferences in fact very few. They don't want him speaking on his own , he 's made quite a few stupid statements such as" bring em on" referring to the attacks that keep happening after the initial attack. That certainly didn't sound very intelligent. I wonder how we will feel about this war a few years from now. But the point is you people that don't respect freedom of speech don't understand how many people lost lives to have that right. I don't even recognize the people of my country, we have never acted like this before over someone's right express their opinion everyone doesn't have to think like you or our President that is why we hold elections thank God we'll have another one.
>>By bigblue98 (Monday, 3 Nov 2003 03:09)
for 'bigblue': I, too, am very disappointed at how many of us handle such situations; however, the blame you are putting on these people in this forum is nothing less than the thing you criticize: their right to free speech. Freedom is a funny word. What does it really mean? Your freedom, or mine, stops wthere is intentionally or unintentionally disrupts another person's freedom, so if it is wrong for us to criticize someone who has demoralized our fundamental values as a nation, then what is freedom, and what is the inhibition of such? Their must also be a limit to what can be called 'freedom'. If it puts another person or persons, or a country in jeopardy, then it should be curbed, and judged as a possible crime, in order to preserve the freedom of those the laws protect, otherwise we have chaos, not anarchy. Where do we draw the line, friend? Where? The lady in question said her opinion, BUT she said things in a tender time when America was hurting, and CARING for her own, and she spoke on foreign soil things she would not have said on her own soil, I wonder....things that certainly don't support any semblance of what I call 'freedom'. They used to call such freedoms the traits of spoiled children, and that is ecactly what we have today; so-called 'rights' without any responsibility, maturity, or accuntibility....some freedom.
>>By troyboy (Tuesday, 4 Nov 2003 07:03)
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