Discussion: System Of A Down

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Dear Malice... Please shut the fuck up. Your rants are pathetically written... When you plea for "intelligence" , please learn to spell it correctly. You have misspelled it a few times above. It is hard to take you seriously about "intelligence" when you sound like such an idiot. As far as SOAD is concerned, they still suck for the reasons I have given above. Until you serve in the military Malice, your misspelled, obsessive rants mean nothing on the subject. SOAD is unAmerican and that has been proven in my above posts... Check out www.dictionary.com for future refference. AntheM

>>By AntheM



system of a down kik u in the ass and say sorry biyatch you asked for it
they are so fukin mentally insane
its not even funny anymore!
well it is but you get the idea

>>By kurt cobain is a god



fuck, i stole that fuckin album and i got busted! i dont get it?? i tried to explain but the officer wouldnt listen after i smacked him in the face...

>>By Punk Rock Rebellion



I worship them. Daron is the ONLY perfect person on this earth... I am their BIGGEST fan... their music is amazing, the best.

>>By Needle



i fully accept that my spelling is poor anthem. my spelling never has won me any awards. but I don't run around to sites spewing such non-sense as goooooooooo
sssyyyssstteeemm or

system of a down kik u in the ass and say sorry biyatch you asked for it
they are so fukin mentally insane
its not even funny anymore!
well it is but you get the idea

>>By kurt cobain is a god

by the way i agree that kurt cobain is a god. but in the future try to make just i tad more sense please. any way anthem.

my spelling is poor. dually noted. by saying this i accept my mistakes which means all insults you send to me on the subject are invalid. i have seen no such defense from your side of things. granted my rants may not be as coherant as yours. but mine have a point. A VERY VALID FUCKING POINT. so, if you will, let us continue our discussion on system of a down. and i would LOVE to hear more of your opinion.

thank you.

>>By malice



oh and the preceeding post was not my first acnowledgement of my futile attemts at making sense. if you read my post's before you would have seen

"hottie, has my psuedo inchoherant rant taught you nothing?"

just a little tidbit to show you i have always known that i make little sense. so please, chill out about my poor spelling.


thank you.

>>By malice



Please Malice… I do admit that I am entertained that someone expends such energy defending this horrible band. Dude it's simple, my argument to you (clearly stated in my previous post on this board with my reasons in my post before that...) is that S.O.A.D. is a non-musical band with minimal talent that will leave behind no music that positively makes a difference in the history of music. SOME Armenians are really the most ignorant and selfish people I have met ... (but I say "some" so you don't fly off the handle and think I am a racist...) I am NOT a racist but I am not really impressed with the majority of the Armenians I have met. Another argument for another board perhaps but I will say that I know MANY Armenian women whom I have spoken with apart from their families and THEY say that all of their mothers don't work - a real statement to the lack of contribution to our economy in America - , most of the males do not have legitimate professions (meaning I invite you ask the next one you run into where they have acquired all of the money for the gaudy jewelry, cars, clothes, homes, etc. from) but rather than stereotype them as all deviants among us, I also invite you to offer an example of a noteworthy Armenian Humanitarian, Scientist, Musician (real musician that is... Not a pseudo-heavy metal bar mitzvah sounding want-to-be-band like your fav S.O.A.D.), or any person of Armenian descent to give you their thoughts and goals on what THEY can do for America now that they are here and free as we all are? I highly doubt that you will get a selfless answer or even one that has any thought behind it. I have even had a conversation with a nutty Armenian woman who HONESTLY FUCKING SAID "I don't have or need any (Armenian or American) friends now that I am married." Of course she is married to an Armenian "robot-like" husband who is basically a walking zombie, oozing of Armenian "tradition" meaning he is down with basically the entire Armenian Culture of resigning to do anything that matters now that he is married to his "perfect" Armenian-brainwashed wife. Check out Burbank or Glendale California anytime and try to engage in any form of human contact with these people. If you are not Armenian, forget it. They care only about their husbands money or their luxury cars and custom homes. Here's a joke for you: "What did the one Armenian Volunteer say to the other at the local homeless shelter/soup/kitchen?" Give up? NOTHING! Because there is no such reality or possiblity of this happening! You will never FUCKING SEE ANY ARMENIANS HELPING ANYONE IN AMERICAN SOCIETY!

Seriously, if you know anything about the music industry, you might know that Novelty usually is promoted more than Musicality or Integrity. White people.... "White trash" I should say have Eminem and Kid Rock blatantly ripping off Aerosmith and posing with Pamela Anderson to somehow create this "bad boy" buzz about these "artists" to move unit sales and Armenians have their "armo trash" - S.O.A.D. It all makes sense if you think about it? Have you ever met Rick Rubin? He is a nice enough guy, but c'mon man, he is about as white trash as they come... I mean he was obviously smart enough to promote bands that have a potential to have a bunch of knucklehead followers and he was smart enough to get on board with these bands to cash in himself on these bands so I applaud that as I always like to see stupid people ( the fans, like S.O.A.D.'s fan base ) get ripped off when one of their own is cashing in on them. Like I said Rick Rubin seems nice enough but I have met him at his house sweating like a pig from who knows what, driving around in Hollywood in his expensive cars with food all in his beard... No problem. But when Anti-Americanism is celebrated by anyone in this country, that's a big problem. As I have stated, I have mentioned my previous post that S.O.A.D. is anti-American. I can put it another way; by them also being anti-government (which I will say, this government in America is far from perfect) it is the dumbest statement they can make. Our country is founded on the beliefs of equality and freedom for everyone that lives here (sorry that I have to give this lesson to you but you seem to not really get what being American is...) ... If S.O.A.D can't realize that for the most part this is working for MANY of us in America - The United States. I again invite you find one American that doesn't value his/her freedom. S.O.A.D. is ignorant to state any flaws about this government or country. First of all they have not served in the military here. I doubt they ALL vote or are even registered...( that would be a good one for you to put some energy into and find out ) and I have yet to hear of anything they have really done for America? I am not a fan so I don't pursue the drama they create. If I do hear anything about this band it is always their negative sentiment for the United States but if they were doing something that REALLY mattered for The United States or anywhere else in the world, I think I would have heard about in the news - the news that matters as in daily life events - not MTV News.... Finally the most important reason that I KNOW they are anti-American is that they have a fan like you. Please read the words you have actually printed here on this forum page:

"and by the way, you bastards had 9/11 coming. not that I condone any terrorist activity whatso ever, but you motherfuckers were bullieng the helpless for years until a few stray planes shut you the hell up. but i digress."

You are fucking kidding right? I mean are you that fucking stupid to think that ANY of the people that were affected, killed, devastated, etc. by the 9/11 attacks were personal friends or relatives of our President? I am not a fan of George W.Bush as a president... But I DON'T wish him harm or anyone really... Terrorism is not courageous and the fact that S.O.A.D. has a fan like you tells me their message some how makes sense to you just like the terrorism that has affected The United States. You are a complete idiot that seems more impressed than anyone else by the things you are posting but please, get a grip. It is poetic actually that you have gotten so obsessed with being right about this that your true colors have shown with your fucking ridiculous rant about terrorism being ok against innocent Americans but it is NOT ok to protest Anti-Americanism types such as the members of S.O.A.D. If you know so much please inform me of any ONE person in the Twin Towers that had ANY agenda against Osama Bin Laden prior to those attacks. The "bulleing" (learn how fucking spell man...) actually the bullying was between our government/military and that country. We have never attacked a people with such tactics in our history of war not to mention the members of S.O.A.D. are so fucking stupid to not realize that The United States is one of the YOUNGEST countries in the world and yet look at how much as been accomplished, produced, envisioned, and realized from the great minds this country has produced... Please educate yourself Malice. The fact that S.O.A.D. even questions American government or history is a joke. Maybe the reason you are still living in the dark ages with your thoughts that terrorism is acceptable in this day and age is because you probably THINK Armenia was ever a land of promise... Look at it this way: You are a fan of this band that no one will remember a thing about musically in a matter of years (or less) with the exception that their "cause" was slamming American government, like you do. Use your typing skills (not your spelling skills) and enter the following website into your browser and check out the following for yourself and ask yourself if the people and products that come out Armenia are so fucking great?

Facts about Armenia : www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/am.html

Facts about U.S.A. : www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html


Check out the first fucking thing it says about Armenia's background -

"Armenia prides itself on being the first nation to formally adopt Christianity (early 4th century). ****** They "pride " themselves on being the first to embrace the make-believe world of religion ******* Despite periods of autonomy, over the centuries Armenia came under the sway of various empires including the Roman, Byzantine, Arab, Persian, and Ottoman. *****This means they got their asses kicked for HUNDREDS OF YEARS***** It was incorporated into Russia in 1828 and the USSR in 1920. ***** Again, the country was busy getting it's ass kicked.***** Armenian leaders remain preoccupied by the long conflict with Muslim Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh, a primarily Armenian-populated region, assigned to Soviet Azerbaijan in the 1920s by Moscow. Armenia and Azerbaijan began fighting over the area in 1988; the struggle escalated after both countries attained independence from the Soviet Union in 1991. By May 1994, when a cease-fire took hold, Armenian forces held not only Nagorno-Karabakh but also a significant portion of Azerbaijan proper. The economies of both sides have been hurt by their inability to make substantial progress toward a peaceful resolution " ***** So this just says that because CENTURIES went by of getting their asses kicked, they still can't get along with anyone. Sound familiar? All of the warring AND terrorism has a religious motive along with a political drive behind such actions. When people like them, you, whomever, live in the dark ages and never evolve, centuries pass and such wars continue to NEVER resolve anything.

Read their Current Environmental Issues : "soil pollution from toxic chemicals such as DDT; the energy crisis of the 1990s led to deforestation when citizens scavenged for firewood; pollution of Hrazdan (Razdan) and Aras Rivers; the draining of Sevana Lich (Lake Sevan), a result of its use as a source for hydropower, threatens drinking water supplies; restart of Metsamor nuclear power plant in spite of its location in a seismically-active zone "

How stupid is this country?
Can they possibly produce anything good or do anything right?
Why doesn't S.O.A.D. help THIER homeland if it is so fucking great there?

Look what is says about it's communication system in Armenia : "general assessment: system inadequate; now 90% privately owned and undergoing modernization and expansion ...." Damn! Maybe that's why everyone is so stupid that embraces S.O.A.D. .... If they can't figure out how to communicate, how would they know good sounding music from bad sounding music over there? Is the stupidity contagious here for the American fans that like how stupid they are ? Please....

Seriously, look at this county's Exports and ask if they are really providing anything for the world? How can S.O.A.D. be so defamatory to The United States when their own fucking country hasn't done shit for themselves or for the rest of the world?

I actually think the members of S.O.A.D. are embarrassed of their nationality and are just pointing fingers to keep people from doing the research on Armenia.

Malice, I think your comment "and by the way, you bastards had 9/11 coming. not that i condone any terrorist activity whatso ever, but you motherfuckers were bullieng the helpless for years until a few stray planes shut you the hell up. but i digress." is totally ridiculous but your thinking represents the ignorant pseudo-angst that S.O.A.D. and its fans demonstrate and know no better than to continue to exude.

Do yourself a favor and just read the United States link on the very same site under
"Economy Overview" for The United States" - the VERY FIRST LINE READS :

"The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $36,300...." This didn't happen by "bullying" EVERYONE for only two hundred years... It happens when motivated, intelligent minds visualize and work towards a goal to make this country great while keeping its people free. The motivation behind being free people is The United States' greatest resource and reason for such social and economical advancement.

Also read on: " The response to the terrorist attacks of September 11 showed the remarkable resilience of the economy. " So fuck you on that point.

Go ahead and continue to look like an idiot with the other lost sheep that embrace a stupid band that is trying to forget it's ancestor's COUNTLESS social and economic train-wrecked history while trying to brain-wash a bunch ignorant people in this country to believe S.O.A.D. remotely knows what the fuck they are talking about.

I guess that makes you their best fan... At least S.O.A.D. know how dumb their ancestors are. You are not able to educate yourself and that makes you more ignorant than them. Like their producer Rick Rubin cashes in on them (good for him), S.O.A.D. is cashing in on you (even better). Sad, but this is the way stupidity works I guess? As it continues, the next dumb person buys into it even more….

Have fun listening to S.O.A.D. while celebrating the 9/11 attacks on America’s civilians.The music is a perfect soundtrack to your sorry life. Crank it up Malice…. You are a fucking idiot.


AntheM

>>By AntheM



okay, look. i did not say the people who were hurt or killed in 9/11 deserved it. i am saying the action was not un-provoked. i did not say i supported the attack. in fact i said the opposite in the sentance below that you copied.

". not that I condone any terrorist activity whatso ever"

All i said was the media buzz around the attack made it seem as though the states was some mighty knight in shining armour, that had never done anybody any harm, and the big bad bin laden had attacked them for no reason. again i must say (because if i don't you might brand me a terrorist) that i do not support the attack. nor do i support bin laden. it was not a random attack. it was more of a retaliation. and when did i say terrorists were courageous? terrorism is cowerdly and devastating.

"terrorism being okay against innocent americans"

now i must say, when i read this i laughed. but i will adress that later.
first. When the hell did i say terrorism was OKAY?

you make me seem as if i was in one of the god damn planes!
again (because you don't seem to get it) i will say I AM NOT A TERRORIST!
AND I AM NOT ARMENIAN. so i don't really give a fuck about your armenia bullshit.
but, KUDOS! KUDOS FOR FINALY DISCUSSING SOMETHING. i must say i would choose your rain of insults and misinformation over the endless blather spewing from these simions anyday.
now why i laughed at your remark. innocent americans. a contradiction in and of itself.
granted not all americans are like your country's so carefully chosen figurehead mr.bush, but innocent americans. much like a six leaved clover are one in a million.

but i now know that you are left unimpressed by my pshyco babble, so i'll make this short.

I AM NOT: ARMENIAN
A TERRORIST
A RASCIST

I AM: A HORRIBLE SPELLER
BAD WITH GRAMMAR
BORED

so in conclusion. you may notice that this post is not as long or full of content (for lack of a better word) that is because your post.totally and completly shut me up. i am not agreeing with what you are saying. and i am not ending the debate but i am a man. and i know when i have been out-ranted. KUDOS AGAIN

>>By Malice



First off I must say I respect all of you whom have an actual intellect and know how to use it. It's so nice to see people who can step away from AIM shortcuts such as u, y, r, et cetera and use proper spelling and grammar. It makes you seem far more intelligent. Be forewarned, seeing as I am underage and juvenile I do not share the same intellect as you and am prone spelling errors, bad grammar and pure laziness. Now then, shall we get started? I respect those of you even more whom aren't afraid to express their feelings towards this band; good or bad. Sadly, seeing as many of the posts are rather long I've only skimmed though, getting a brief idea of what exactly is going on here.

System of a Down would most definitely not be my favorite band but they have my admiration. I enjoy their lyrics very much. One of my personal favorites would have to be their song Needles, for unknown reasons, of course. That song just draws me in. I would say Toxicity is their best CD sofar, but others may have a different conjecture, so I'll not generalize and say it is their best. Skagirl -- Would you be so kind as to explain why System of a Down sucks? Be like the few selective others and back yourself up. Everyone has a right to their opinion of course. I shall not be one to put you down for it.

Everyone has their own ear too music as well. Some may love metal while other believe metal sucks. A band can never truly suck unless disliked by everyone. I know System of a Down is the only one if it's kind I like or atleast the only kind of music like that which I have heard sofar and I think they're great. I'm not saying there aren't any bands that are greater than System of a Down, there are many I'm sure, but to others there could be a lot of bands greater than the one you truly admire. Hm. But why are you here talking about terrorist attacks? We seem off topic now, don't we? Might I persuade some of you back on topic? What are you takes on System of a Down? Express any feelings you have towards the band. This is a System of a Down board after all. We don't all have to be pro System of a Down, we all don't have to be against them either. It would be nice to have a mixture. Be so kind as to refrain from using AIM shortcuts though. I get very nitpicky about those at times.

So, now I'll be a parrot and repeat myself. Any takes on System of a Down? Remember, think for youself and don't say something because some one else whom you admire or is your idol has that opinion. Be unique. Be positive or negative. Be yourself and express your true feelings. Really, I'd love to hear it all.

>>By Obscure Sanity



thank you, thank you, thank you A MILLION TIMES THANK YOU!
if only everyone was like you. you RULE
you are HOLY! thank you.

thank you.



thank you....

>>By Malice



SOAD is one of the most ground breaking original bands i've seen in a long time.
deer dance is an absolutley fabulous song. and AntheM exaclty why do you not like them? is it some personal thing, like serj shot your dog? or daron pissed in your cornflakes? you mentioned something about them and rage against the machine being 'politically confused'? if you'd elaborate on that, it'd be plum dandy!
you also said something about them 'trying' to play their instruments.
as a guitar player, i can tell you theres nothing simple and/or sub par about the music they play. i am not saying your wrong, i'd just like you to provide some examples on how you figure they are not talented.

drive safe

>>By [insert name here]



JESUS COMMANDS YOU ALL TO STOP WRITING FUCKING NOVELS!!! Oh shit I swore... Daddy's gonna beat me.... =(

>>By Your saviour, Jesus Christ



omg i lyke love system of a down aka soad!!! i luv da song chop suey!!! Avril Lavigne did a cover of chop suey i downloaded it and she sounds soooo freeking awesome!!!
Avril 4 punk prezzie wezzie!!!

>>By sk8ter gurl



sk8ter girl. what the fuck are you thinking meandering into a room full of system fans talking about avril lavigne. you should be beaten with a fucking oar. A FUCKING OAR. and how fucking lazy are you. type a full fucking word. da? b? luv? lyke? okay what the fuck? lyke. it's four letters! so is the correct spelling! are you trying to impress somebody! what the fuck? WHAT THE FUCK??? get the fuck out.
GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!!!!! NOW!!! AND TAKE YOUR MORONIC SPELLING OF LIKE WITH YOU! I MAY BE A HORRIBLE SPELLER BUT I WRITE THE WHOLE FUCKING WORD!!!!!! BITCH!!!!!

>>By Malice



I am very offended by your comments...person posting under the name of the Messiah. I would Apreciate it if you Apologized. thank you.

>>By SystemFan25



Why should I apologize? I'm Jesus. You should know it in your heart if you truly believed in the holy spirit. That is why you will burn in Hell. =)

>>By Your saviour, Jesus Christ



i don't see the need for your profanity here. please leave. Who's with me?

>>By SystemFan25



C'mon fella's. we're here to discuss the music, not to diss the LORD. C'mon who's with me?

>>By SystemFan25



yeah, i am with you....GO AWAY JESUS! Lol, just kidding.....Jesus is cool, he can stay..SystemFan25 has to go...whos with me? C'mon fellas...whos with me....yeah...SystemFan25 huh huh huh your name sucks huh huh huh.

>>By The Anti-Christ



actually i think u should be the one to leave thank u???

>>By allie



me? leave? why? and thank YOU.

>>By The Anti-Christ



There is one thing you guys have to help me with.
Why do people that do not like SOAD bother to go and waste their time discussing with people that love the system without decent arguments involving the actual music SOAD makes?
Go and admire some other band and stop being so negative.
No really.....

>>By Just passing by...



dude, shut up.

>>By Malice



Malice you are a fucking loser who should get a life,SOAD is a great band, but please shut the fuck

>>By god



I agree with all the people here!!!! SYSTEM OF A DOWN KICKS MAJOR ASS!!! They are my gods!!! Serj is my god!!! I wish you can see the love I have for them!! When ever some dumbass talks shit about them I just say "FUCK YOU!!" or "YOUR JUST JEALOUS CAUSE THEIR FAMOUS AND YOU NOT!!!" I WISH I COULD MEET THEM IN PERSON!!! THAT WOULD BE A DREAM COME TRUE!!!!! I think Serj is hott!!! But not only him all of them!!!! If anyone wants to talk to me about them JUST EMAIL ME AT

Ruby_sanmartin@yahoo.com

Go ahead talk to me!!!

>>By Ruby San M.(Mrs.Tankian)



heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hi to all system fans im an armenian and love system more than everything in this fucken world i just wont to say go system gooooooooooooooooo and never stop go to say to this fucken world there r armenians can do everything when they wont go to fuck the turkish as halls :)))))))))))))))))))

>>By rafaello



god, you are a pathetic little man. i have no evidence to back this up but i don't see how i need any. i will simply respond as follows: SUCK MY BALLS!

>>By Malice



Ok people. This is getting out of hand. Lame children in wheelchairs and bowl haircuts are sauntering on in here, And nobobdy is doing anything about it. for shame. FOR SHAME.
avril lavinge has no place here. retarded hobo children impersonating wives of SOAD have no place. " heyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hi to all system fans im an armenian and love system more than everything in this fucken world i just wont to say go system gooooooooooooooooo and never stop go to say to this fucken world there r armenians can do everything when they wont go to fuck the turkish as halls :)))))))))))))))))))" HAS NO FUCKING PLACE HERE!!!! "heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"? who the fuck are you? fucking fonzi? get the fuck out. ">>By Ruby San M.(Mrs.Tankian)" that's not funny or cool. get the fuck out.

"Avril 4 punk prezzie wezzie!!!" i would rather lick the slop from an ethiopian boys post mortem flesh and bone asshole than ever read such fucking retard drivel ever again. GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!


you people should be burned with cattle prods. on a stage in front of the whole fucking world along with avril lavinge. GET....THE...FUCK...OUT!!!!! fucking retards.


"
There is one thing you guys have to help me with.
Why do people that do not like SOAD bother to go and waste their time discussing with people that love the system without decent arguments involving the actual music SOAD makes?
Go and admire some other band and stop being so negative.
No really.....

>>By Just passing by..." granted not the worst of it all. but still about as fucking useful as a dead seeing eye dog to a blind driver.

GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!


I don't really enjoy talking about etheopian assholes or dead dogs. but verbal brute force seems to be the only thing chowderheads like you fuckers respond to short of physical brute force. and i can't claim i'll find you and beat you, i don't have the energy nor the time, but i sure as hell would like to.

AVRIL LAVINGE SHOULD BE BURNED ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!

>>By Malice



WE DON'T NEED TO MULTIPLY!

>>By X



Don't you just love it when people get all passionate about their beliefs, thoughts?

I think System of a Down is fucking brilliant. The way the music flows into irratic, insane lyrics kind of makes it stick in your mind. Even if you don't like the music, it still tickles you. The words are also spoken with a purpose instead of just rambling on like so many "modern" bands. The "apparently" insane lyrics is just a guise to reach the people of this world, this crazy world. The words do make sense though. Just not sense in your mindless and linear ways of thinking.

Take, for example, Anthem. Vehemently attacking the words that just won't make sense. Even then, it still made an impression into your mind. Otherwise you would not have posted here, eh? So..... something tells me that SoaD has succeeded in their mission.

My suggestion then is this: Just listen .... and the meaning relating to each of you shall become clear.

>>By Skellstaff



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