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Discussion: Pink Floyd Sweet, we all have our different tastes. UmmaGumma didn't do much for me. >>By Jane Have you guys heard the song Fearless? I'm so in love with it..ahh it's amazing! "And I'll climb the hill in my own way. Just wait a while for the right day" :) >>By Jane Hmmmmm... I just thought I'd question the notion that Roger Waters "was the main creative force" (hexegot) behind the Floyd, certainly he was the primary lyricist but all the members were involved in the writing of the musical compositions and I think it would be fair to say that Mr Waters isn't much of a bassist or a vocalist . So it's possibly the case that other members (notably David Gilmour as lead guitarist and main vocalist and thus one suspects originater of most of the vocal melody lines and certainly possessed of a much admired and influential guitar style) were perhaps equally if not more signifcantly involved in defining the Floyd sound. I'm sure I read an interview somewhere where it was revealed that Gilmour played most of the bass on the recordings too ! Anyone else seen this interview? Google has failed me this time! And btw I found their Live 8 performance to be the highlight of the day! >>By planet ear shine on you crazy diamond >>By LINZ OF ASTRA howz the jazzy ending >>By LINZ OF ASTRA Pink Floyd - Wow how I miss them. >>By labronner Meddle and More are the overlooked masterpieces. Check em out. Sure, Animals is easy to appreciate and gets my vote for "best of", but also give Atom Heart Mother a chance. Timeless. And Jane, who didn't care much for Ummagumma. First, listen again to the track, Several Species of Small Furry Animals Grooving Together With A Pic. Come on, its good!! If that gets you curious again, watch Live at Pompei Been my favorite band now for 30 years!! >>By Krite Yep Echoes seems to me a foretaste of classic spacious 70s Floyd sound...... >>By planet ear i............ have become, comfortably nunb....''''great line" >>By coca ooops...numb.... >>By coca http://www.pinkfloyd-co.com/band/interviews/djg/djg92.html >>By Sk8a H8a Here's that interview you were after, planet ear! >>By Sk8a H8a @ planet ear --> It's true that all Pink Floyd members were involved in the process of composing (as you posted October 2), but in my opinion it was Roger Waters who made the music really profound. Listening to albums from the post-Waters period (studio: 'A Momentary Lapse Of Reason' and 'The Division Bell'), I hear very good music, absolutely, but it all sounds very clean somehow and it lacks the tension and the... well, let me call it 'audial secrets' that Roger used to work into it (and I don't just mean the distorted, spacy sounds which appear in the Floyd's earlier work). The other three are indispensable as well, but this is why I see Roger as 'mister Pink Floyd'. >>By Hexegot Well they are all a little older and playing safer now surely!?!?!?? Anyway I take your point that certainly "Momentary ....." isn't quite as good as the best of Floyd but surely a better comparison wouldn't be between post-Waters Floyd and Waters Floyd in attempting to discern who was responsible for the "spark" but between post Waters Floyd and Waters solo efforts? (I admit that I haven't heard them, but according to sales figures relatively few have!) And in his position he was able to call upon some VERY notable and no doubt expansive help...... Equally to be fair to all concerned what would say DSOTM sound like without (presumably Alan Parsons influenced?) work with tape loops, Clare Torry's inspired performance on Great Gig...., the addition of a slew of backing vocalists to more Floydian originated sounds etc etc etc.....it's all about time place opportunity and artistic chemistry I guess...... Has anyone read Nick Masons book btw? >>By planet ear Thanks Sk8er... Now I want to read a similar period Waters interview ! LOL >>By planet ear You can find an interview with Waters from the same year on that website! It's quite funny although not what you'd want to read if you're a big fan of Waters's music... >>By Sk8a H8a Poor old Syd, God rest his acid-frazzled brain....... >>By planet ear What happened to the Floyd after Wish You Were Here is very unfortunate. To my ears, albums like The Wall, Animals, & The Final Cut do not typify classic Floyd. The reasons? Well, to a lesser extent the influence of outsiders like Bob Ezrin, but most of all, the over dominance of Roger Waters. He's been vilified in many quarters but isn't completely to blame. Without his presence, Momentary Lapse Of Reason & The Division Bell don't rate as greatest Floyd albums either. After the heights of Dark Side Of The Moon & Wish You Were Here, Dave Gilmour & Rick Wright suffered burn-out in the musical & creative sense. Waters held his own & pulled his weight but it shattered the balance of the band. Formerly Floyd had been a band where all members more equally contributed but Waters was unfortunately allowed to take over. The others played a part in that & Wright sadly paid the greatest price when he was forced to leave. Live 8 at least rectified things by reuniting the classic Floyd quartet. If that proves to be an epitaph, it's not such a bad one at all. >>By nonyeb Well, that´s what I personally like about Pink Floyd - they changed so much over the years, but they never did one boring album. They´re like several bands. If you first listen to Piper at the Gates of Dawn and then to The Wall, you wouldn´t believe this was the same band. But they´re all great. Only after Roger Waters left, they became a bit clean (as Hexegot put it) and, in my opinion, quite uninspired. >>By Nightmare I agree with Nonyeb. like a lot of great art, the best work of Pink Floyd was born out of tension, and that tension was created by the struggle between the monumental egos of Waters and Gilmore (its interesting, for example, just how ready they were to kick out Syd Barrett in order to keep moving along). the history of the Floyd has always been about that struggle between them, which is what created the best music. Once Waters had left, the tension went, and so did a lot of the creativity. "The Division Bell" is a not-bad album, but let's face it, nothing Gilmore/post Walters Floyd/Walters own stuff have done is a patch on the Floyd stuff. >>By Neddy Loved your keyboards & vocals, Rick. Rest in peace. >>By nonyeb I am saddened to learn that Rick Wright is no longer with us. It is curious yardstick to the of passage we all make through life that those who inspired us as youngsters do not stay with us forever. Pink Floyd's 70s albums were a major and inspirational part of my musical world. Rick was an integral part of their sonic signature. He will be missed. Rest in Peace. >>By planet ear Just been listening to The Wall over the past few days. It still is a masterpiece after all these years. With age comes wisdom. It has so much more meaning now than it did when I was a kid. Genius indeed!! >>By Dust Radio Well, my faves from The Wall remain those where Gilmour contributed to the music, especially compositions like Comfortably Numb and Run Like Hell. I find it difficult to listen to a track like The Trial where Bob Ezrin wrote the music. Isn't it very un-Floyd-like? Much of the rest is too Waters-dominated for me. I think Obscured By Clouds is their most underrated work. >>By nonyeb Ummugumma is the best, eh. >>By Zweistein I'd have to disagree with you there, nonyeb. Whilst Gilmour is a genius, the Division Bell (without Waters) wasn't the same. It lacked something. Meanwhile, Roger Water's "Amused to Death" always gives me a chill down my spine. I absolutely love the Wall to pieces - and Run Like Hell always puts a smile on my face. But Animals definitely has to be the best album by them - and possibly ever made. It's so absorbing, and portrays the subject perfectly in lyrical form. And I absolutely LOVE the guitar effects made to sound like pigs in the song of the same name. Love it. >>By Tchock The fact that the Floyd (Having first struck-out in the mid '60s) can still appeal to people in their early 20s, says much (in their favour) about them, doesn't it. >>By nonyeb >And I absolutely LOVE the guitar effects made to sound like pigs in the song of the same name. Love it. 'Tis a Talkbox Tchock... Digitech did a more recent version... the "Talker" ... but that seems to have been discontinued, expect ebay would have a few tho.... >>By planet ear Ahh, Talkbox thanks... know bugger all about music really. I just recognise it as rather pleasant noise :) Totally agree with you nonyeb. I wonder how many bands today will survive our memories for the next forty years. I hope to feckin god this period in time isn't remembered for Lady Gaga though! >>By Tchock Pink floyd is my mind engine >>By tamer_or
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