Discussion: Michael Jackson

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you 2 are so right, he is an absolute legend, and thanks for agreeing with me scarletnikki. one thing thats got my attention though, is that apparently they found no DNA evidence that the boy was in michael jackson's bed. surely that is enough to say the kid is lying...or did i miss understand something with that bit/lack of evidence? the lads keep changing accounts of what happened, including dates and what the boy was wearing. i think the judge is wrong to deny the jury of going to see the ranch. all they are seeing are clips of videos which i believe the prosecution are using. the defence should be able to back themselves up there, but i dont think they are being given the chance. the media said jackson keeps child size manaquins in his home...what they didnt say was they are manaquins of cartoon characters such as peter pan and winnie the pooh!

>>By molkos_lover



"weeeeeeeeeeeeee
i'm NOT GUILTY
Tito, go & get my address book
call all the boys.........
tell 'em all
slumber party at Neverland tonight
victory is mine !!!!!!"

>>By Helmet



Regardless, the man is absurd...

>>By 8drummer8



absurd maybe....INNOCENT either way. its over. leave him alone. you cannot find an innocent man guilty. simple!! god i love being right! 10 charges!! wow! thats alot to be CLEARED of!
he needs to be left alone now to rebuild his life. people wont let him be normal so how do you expect him to act it. oh well, i dont care....celebratory drinks at mine tonight then :o)

>>By molkos_lover



but you can't deny he sleeps in the same bed as boys and that can't be right.

>>By scarletnikki



no one can deny that...not even jacko denies that. but it doesnt mean he touches them sexually. people can sleep in the same bed without sexual acts being made. at the end of the day, if he was guilty surely they'd have picked him up on something...10 charges is alot to be found not guilty of, if you are actually guilty. the evidence just wasnt there.
im not saying what he does is right, but i am saying he's not the evil character people want him to be. ive always said IF he done it, the evidence will be there and they will find it, and he should be sent down. but that wasnt to be...and for a reason...you cant prove an innocent man to be guilty. simple.

>>By molkos_lover



so ms < molkos_lover >..............
i assume you'd have no problem
dropping off YOUR 7 year-old son at Neverland
for an unsupervised sleepover
in
46 year-old MJ's bed

well
the ( very predictable) verdict is in
those of you that love him
will
LOVE him more
those of us that detest him
will
LOATHE him more
but hey
that's OK
to each his own
but...but...but
it will be kinda interesting to see if MJ goes 'cold turkey'
on da boyish jailbait
or
if his judicial clean sweep emboldens him to continue on his voyage of nocturnal schoolboy emissions....er...ah....i mean shenanigans

>>By Helmet



helmet...i said i dont agree with what he does...so pay attention before you give out personal attacks. i just believe there is no sexual side to it. and apparently so do the jury! at the end of the day the evidence was not there!!!! why is it so hard for some people to grasp that! bed doesnt always equal sex!!
it seems people like you are just as obsessed with michael jackson as his fans are. love and hate is just a small part of it. :o)
he had his day in court. the man should be left in peace to do what he damn well pleases with his career. id love to have more music from him but if he goes quiet, thats his call. why dont you go waste your time on soneone who has actually been convicted...not someone who is innocent. people do either love or hate him, i understand that. but some people just cant accept the facts.

>>By molkos_lover



wow, what a surprise..he's innocent. i do have to agree that the accusers integrity were very questionable......but at least the factual alcohol distribution case should have been guilty. it's only a matter of time till this happens again.....let the games begin......maybe now he can open up a childcare center......and run it....

>>By coca



ach... gotta love him man

>>By yoursweet666godess



love his music and voice, ever since the jackson 5. great dancing music

>>By coca



why are the jurors now saying they think he has molested children just not in the 10 counts brought to court? they are set to make a lot of money from this selling their stories.

>>By scarletnikki



hey all
well
i didn't follow the trial too closely
as
it was kind of obvious that the bulk of the prosecutions case rested on the shoulders of the ONE boy & his miserable mother
even from the get-go it was clear that they had a shady past & probably weren't going to be overly sympathitic to the jury
in fact i've already seen a couple of the jurors doing the TV circuit & they have been quite up-front in discussing their disdain for the boys mother.
and yeah
i've also heard them touch on the topic of how they thought there were probably other incidents apart from the boy he was charged with molesting
i guess these suspicions arose while hearing various people testify about life behind the gates of Neverland
i believe the jury had instuctions of over 100 pages guiding them on how to deliberate on the 10 counts
i'm sure at no point were they allowed to deviate to matters of other hanky-panky
&
to my page-mate < molkos _lover >
c'mon !!!
i respect your point of view
&
unwavering support of MJ
but
i think i wasn't out of line in asking you if you would trust
The King Of Pop
to
babysit your son
i
think the bar for "personal attacks"
is set a little higher

>>By Helmet



thank you im glad you respect what im saying...as i do what your saying. its good to talk to people with a different opinion. i wouldnt leave my son with anyone who isnt family. doesnt matter whether they are some nobody from my town...or the biggest icon the world has ever seen. only family look after my son when i need someone. one thing id like to point out though...the arvizo family were staying there as guests...michael was not their babysitter...so i dont understand where that saying is coming from.

>>By molkos_lover



i respect molko'slover for showing so muchdevotion and being able to discuss things intelligentyl. I think michael thinks like a child of about 14 and does dabble with children, but in his mind that is natural. He needs to come into line with the rest of society and realise the age he is , and that he can not do these things. no dought tho' he has been horribly exploited.

>>By scarletnikki



ty scarlet. he def does have the mind frame of a child. although im not agreeing with the dabbling bit. if he was found guilty id accept it and be happy to watch him do his time. but i cant agree while he is at the "not guilty" status. i think he is very misunderstood...and im not saying i DO understand him, coz i dont! not at all. but i recognise the fact he needs people around him who do understand him, who can help him. its a shame coz he is extremely talented, and its being overshadowed.

>>By molkos_lover



yes, he thinks as a child, yet he is a grown man, acting out sexual acts or asexual acts dealing with children. he is mentally stuck in a child like mind, and doing damage to children. a healthy man does not sleep with children or surround himself with kids, 24, 7......he states that adults have let him down, but not children.....there is no way that this is the end of this " neverland" dreamworld that he has created. his mom and dad have done a great deal of damage to this guy...and theres no going back.

>>By coca



you look at old film footage of the Jackson 5
with
the little dynamo out front
&
then compare that to the MJ of today
&
i think we all wonder what internal things transpired
to
produce that result..............
childhood fame
abusive father
unlimited wealth
&
to top it all off
self-image issues
i dunno
but i think it's safe to say that the man we see today
is
a result of a plethora of unresolved childhood maladies

>>By Helmet



ah i have to agree with you. he had a damaging childhood. it is always hard if not impossible to move on from things in the past, so imagine how hard it must be for mj. he has the right idea, that children should just have fun...fun fair, zoo etc which is what he has built neverland for. but admittedly there is a line.

>>By molkos_lover



The mom should have come up with a better story than just a hand down the pants. Maybe a blow job would have convinced the jury. Perhaps they could reinforce the story with his new fear of popsicles and hotdogs. In any case, Michael should throw the jurors a big party and invite their kids to tag along.

>>By Hume Ungus



mj is a sick-loser . what more must be said

>>By An Evil Girl



matter of opinion! ok, so compared to most others, he's a little weird in his own way. but he is also an entertainment genius. long live the king! :o)
the verdicts of the 10 counts he was up against....
count 1...not guilty
count 2...not gulity
count 3...not guilty
count 4...not guilty
count 5...not guilty
count 6...not guilty
count 7...not guilty
count 8...not guilty
count 9...not guilty
count 10...not guilty..........what more must be said?

>>By molkos_lover



yea, right....like o.j. is innocent too......

>>By coca



he's guilty no matter what the results are

>>By MetalBladeRecords



if he was guilty, there was far too much to "get away with" so the evidence would have been there. and why should the family have "come up with a better story"...?clearly people want him to go down regardless of guilt or innocence!! we are always gonna disagree, but no one can change the facts. the family wouldnt have needed to lie, if he was guilty. jackson will be back!! and he will go straight to number one!! watch and see!! :o)

>>By molkos_lover



...and i think theres a big difference between mj's case and oj simpsons case! they cant be compared!!

>>By molkos_lover



yes....they were both guilty in my eyes ,,,no matter what the jury thought...and yes maybe his music could rebound......lets see how much he gets in commercial endorsements. he is an embarrassement and a joke to many. tell me how many men and women were convicted and later exonerated? and how many guilty and set free???? as i said before, this is not the end of his sickness.

>>By coca



oj simpson was found with blood on him and practically standing there with the murder weapon in his hands. he was then involved in a police chase....thats a guilty man. there was evidence! there was no evidence again mj. i do agree with you though, guilty people are usually set free, and before their time is served. but mj is not guilty. the only thing he is guilty of...is being very stupid, too trusting, and having too much surgery!

>>By molkos_lover



yea, right.....how did kids in the past know EXACTLY how m.j.s penis looked like..lucky guess??? i think not. .GUILTY..end of story...

>>By coca



lol...how do you know what his penis looks like to be able to comment on somenoe elses description?? and it takes one person to make their own description...and lets face it, most of them look pretty damn similar anyway...and the next liar will just copy! still wasnt enough to find the man guilty in a court of law though....hee hee :o) i know im not alone supporting him. its great!

>>By molkos_lover



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