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>>By jhonny (Friday, 3 Jan 2003 14:22)

Jefferson Airplane Founder Bob Harvey teamed w/ Brian Fowler to form San Francisco Blue and make their unique brand of PsychoFolk. This Forum is for the Music of San Francisco Blue,Superczar, and Jones Ave.These 3 entities are a unique sound. SFB the Music Of Bob and Brian, Jones Ave a folk and Hard Rock fuse w/ Psychedelia and the Avant Garde, And Superczar a electronic melt of Pop,Metal,Folk,Techno. Each Band is Unique and each has the same Mind set. Each member has Helped out on each project. The Spirit of The Age connects us all. Welcome to the Family Forum, The members of these bands will let you know whats happening with the Music and Keep You Informed. Original Jefferson Airplane Member Bob Harvey blazed a trail w/ His music that only the Privledged know about. Feel free to Ask Bob Questions, He was there when the whole scene developed. Zeitgeist is the mecca for the Psychedelic World Right now, True Indie Rock can be found There and these projects can be found there as well. www.sfblue.co.uk Information on Superczar albums "The Stress Signal" and "6 Lives" Jones Avenue "Folk Art" and SFB "Idiots Vision".

>>By Mark Reynolds (Saturday, 8 Feb 2003 06:21)

Founding Jefferson Airplane Member Bob Harvey and Jones Ave./Superczar guitarist/mandolinist Brian Fowler released the album "Idiots Vision" in 2001. Bob Harvey is a true Folk music legend. Bob Has made movies w/ Don Preston of mother's of invention called "Hard Ride to the movies" starred in Adult film/Horror flick "The Commune". Was a original member of the Paul Williams "Holy mackeral". Bob missed Fame and Fortune w/ the Jefferson Airplane only to be thrown from the Plane before it took off. Bob has authored many a great song.Bob was there when the Haight Ashbury was just beginning, When Garcia was a banjo picker. Feel free to Ask Bob Harvey Questions about the Jefferson Airplanes birth, San Francisco Blue or what ever you want. This forum also is for discussion of Brian Fowlers other bands Superczar and Jones Ave.Jones Ave has released their new album "Folk Art" In 2002. Folk Art features Trannslyvannian violinist Laszlo Stan, Bassist John Joiner,Dr. David Wisdo,Josh "Nerves" Railey,Brian Fowler and Gabe Holland.Jones Ave is currently playing live shows and Working on the follow-up to "Folk Art". Superczar has released 2 albums one in 2002 called "Stress Signal" and One in 2003 called "6 Lives". Superczar also is featured on Shuteye records Compilation "Melodic marvels" and Thunderbubble Pictures Film "Chaos God and Sun Monster". Superczar is Brian Fowler and Gabe Holland. Enjoy the forum, there is really no rules, Whether your here for Bob Harvey,Superczar, Jones Ave,San Francisco Blue, or you are a perverse Collector and you have rode the Jefferson Airplane family tree all the way here, We are Glad to have you. So post and Talk and enjoy cause we are recording music and sharing it with you. Take care..
Discography::: San Francisco Blue "Idiots Vision" 2001/San Francisco Blue "Comes A Time" 2001/ Jones Ave. "Folk Art" 2002/ "Melodic Marvels Compilation" 2002/ Superczar "The Stress Signal" 2002/ Superczar "6 Lives" 2003/

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>>By Herman Faltheshrew (Saturday, 19 Apr 2003 05:03)

San Francisco Blue - "Idiot's Vision"
(Tall Tales Music 2000, 3-13-33)

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From Aural Innovations #22 (January 2003)

San Francisco Blue is a duo project of original Jefferson Airplane bassist Bob Harvey and Brian Fowler of Jones Ave and Superczar, plus numerous guests. The band is called San Francisco Blue to reflect Harvey's roots in both San Francisco and Bluegrass music, which he played both before and after his time with Jefferson Airplane. The music on Idiot's Vision is intended to be based in bluegrass music and strongly influenced by both folk-rock and psychedelic music.

The music does indeed include healthy doses of song oriented Blues rock, Bluegrass and Folk with some psychedelic influences cropping up from time to time. Harvey's vocals and Fowler's mandolin are central to the character of the music and I particularly enjoyed the songs like the title track with prominent mandolin. "Death Warmed Over" is a rug cutting Blues rock tune with mucho tasty guitar and mandolin. I really liked the sound of the electric guitar and mandolin trading licks. Other highlights include "Rider's Blues", a psych tinged Blues rocker with Clapton styled guitar. "Run Thru The Tall Grass" is the most acidic psych-rock tune on this album. "Free" and "One By One" feature pure folk with beautiful vocals from Sandra O'Keefe. And "High On A Mountain" has a Crosby, Stills & Nash flavor.

In addition to songs composed for this album the set also includes two songs written by Harvey during his Airplane days. "Shadowleaves" is a Bluesy folk-rock tune with laid back but awesomely tasteful blues guitar. And "Harmless" is a very nice folk-psych song sung against a spacey backdrop.

The CD includes extensive liner notes written by Harvey detailing his early years in San Francisco, Jefferson Airplane's formative years and his ultimate firing from the band in the days before they were unveiled to the public, and more recently finding himself in Saudi Arabia as a journalist covering Desert Storm where he met Fowler. A nice set.

For more information you can visit the San Francisco Blue web site at: http://www.stuarthamilton.f9.co.uk/sfb.
CLICK HERE to read the review this issue of Fowler's more recent Superczar band, and CLICK HERE to read the review of Jones Ave in AI #20.

Reviewed by Jerry Kranitz

>>By Will Dockery (Saturday, 19 Apr 2003 05:06)

Text copyright 1998 Greg Gildersleeve. Presented on the web by Stefan Ohlsson.

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Bob Harvey was the third member and original bass player of Jefferson Airplane. His upright bass was part of the band's original acoustic and electric sound. But when the Airplane went all-electric in order to procure a recording contract, Bob's days were numbered.

Robert Brian Harvey was born November 17, 1934, in Burley, WA, the youngest of five children of Frank and Eleanor Harvey. In high school, he sang in a gospel quartet and school choir at Seattle Christian School. Later, while serving in the Philippines, he played banjo with a country singer named Les Overstreet. They recorded a couple of singles that got air play in Manila.

By 1963, Bob had moved to Burlingame, CA, where he co-founded a bluegrass outfit called the Slippery Rock String Band with Lee Cheney (flat picker) and Chuck McCabe (five-string banjo). As the group needed a bass player, Bob took up the upright bass.

SRSB made the rounds at other music clubs, including the Drinking Gourd in San Francisco, where Bob became friendly with Marty Balin, who was then singing with the Town Criers. As Bob recalls, on a Friday night in March 1965, he overheard Marty and his new acquaintance, Paul Kantner, discussing a new band they wanted to form. Upon hearing Marty say, "I want it to be a folk rock group," Bob turned and instantly volunteered his services. Attracted to the rock 'n' roll excitement generated by the Beatles, Bob wanted in on the action. The next day, he auditioned for what would soon become Jefferson Airplane.

At 30, Bob was significantly older than the rest of the band. Nevertheless, he described his tenure with the Airplane as the most exciting experience of his life. "The excitement was the newness of the whole scene in [San Francisco]," he said. "We had identity. We were accepted, and we had status. Even the flower children in the park had it, but up on stage it was magnified 100 times and it was sweet."

The sweetness didn't last long. In September 1965, RCA tentatively offered the band a recording contact if they went all electric. Bob bought an electric bass. Guitarist Jorma Kaukonen helped him pick it out and offered to woodshed with him, but Bob got sidetracked with other interests. A few weeks later, in early October, Bob arrived at the Matrix Club only to find he was being replaced. His first indication came when he saw that Marty's cartoon on the club's wall had been altered. Previously, it had shown all of the band members riding on the wings and body of a bi-plane. In the new version, Bob was hanging onto the tail by his fingertips and shouting, "I can't help it if I smoke bluegrass!"

Bob returned to the Slippery Rock String Band through 1967. He sang lead on their only record, a "jugband ditty" called There's an Old Tule Fog a-Hangin' Around the Golden Gate Bridge of My Heart. In 1968, he joined The Holy Mackerel, which featured Paul Williams (who later wrote We've Only Just Begun, Just an Old Fashioned Love Song, and others). Their one and only album was produced by Richard Perry in 1969, but Bob left before its completion when Williams insisted on singing lead on every song. Though one of Bob's compositions, Wildflowers, did make the final cut, the album flopped. Subsequently, Bob turned to acting, appearing in The Commune (ca. 1971) and the low budget Hard Ride to the Movies (ca. 1972), in which he starred as King, the leader of a biker gang.

After returning to college and majoring in journalism, Bob went on to become entertainment editor of Mother Trucker Magazine (which later became American Trucker). He then settled down into a career as an appraiser for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Bob also served as a journalist in the U.S. Navy Reserve and, at age 55, was called up and sent overseas during the Persian Gulf War. While there, he struck up a partnership with a young musician named Brian Fowler. After losing touch for a few years, Bob and Brian reconnected in the late '90s and formed a new band called San Francisco Blue>, based, oddly enough, in Georgia. In January 2001, they released their first CD, Idiot's Vision on Cranium Records.

Great Music most have not even heard of.. Jefferson Airplane Original Founding member BOB HARVEY. Highly Collectible www.sfblue.co.uk to get one of the rare cd's Idiots Vision.

>>By Will Dockery (Saturday, 19 Apr 2003 05:10)

2001
Genre: Psychedelic , Folk AOTM: Jan2001

Featuring one time founding member of JEFFERSON AIRPLANE, Bob Harvey, who left JA prior to that band recording their fist album for RCA in 1965. Bob Harvey (guitar & vocals) has teamed up with Brian Fowler (mandolin, acoustic/electric guitars & bass). Guests appear on all 11 tracks. Two of the tracks were written by Bob back in 1965 and on 'Idiots Vision' receive their first airing. SFB play a mix of San Francisco 60's psychedelic and country-rock. This album should appeal to fans of the Grateful Dead, CSN&Y & early Jefferson Airplane.

How did the band get together? The story begins in the early 1990's. Bob and Brian were in the same Sea Bee (Naval Construction Battalion) that went to Saudi Arabia during Desert Storm. Bob and Brian started playing together and after returning to civilian life in May 1991 they did some writing and recording. But when Bob had a family tragedy and he had his hands full dealing with it, they lost touch. In the fall of 1998, Bob and Brian found each other again through Jeff Tamarkin who was writing a book on the Airplane and was looking for Bob. Brian answered Jeff's query on the internet and gave him Bob's Atlanta address. Jeff's letter was forwarded to California where Bob had moved. After meeting Grace Slick in Malibu, Jeff drove to Riverside, California and spent a few hours interviewing Bob. He also gave Bob Brian's E-mail address. Bob contacted Brian and they began working on songs again. Bob would send lyrics and Brian would add music. He would record the music and send it back to Bob. This was how San Francisco Blue was formed and how the project called "Idiot's Vision" was begun in October 1998. The year 2001 is a time of renewal and promise. Bob and Brian are very pleased that "Idiot's Vision" has now been released through Cranium Music in New Zealand. It is a limited pressing of 1,000 CDs. Get one while they are still available.
A gem just waiting to be heard!

My Last post, Get these albums They are great!!

>>By Will Dockery (Saturday, 19 Apr 2003 05:14)

What can u say about JEFFERSON AIRPLANE well to start they r one of the best psychedelic rock bands ever !!!! 'White Rabbit' to me is like stairway to heaven.I listen to one song and say thats O.K then i listen to it again and it gets better the music just grows on me and it would grow on anybody who listens to it.

>>By Dominick Peti (Sunday, 20 Apr 2003 13:47)

April 25, 2003
Superczar is back and preparing for the Movie premiere of "Chaos Monster and the Sun God" A short 30 minute film by Thunderbubble pictures Guru KREG THORNLEY. Superczar has the song "Superczar" as the cut for the movie. On May 9th we are going to be on Album 88 Atlanta Georgia at 5:00 P.M to spin some cuts from our 2 albums, Talk about the movie and our new single. Superczar is back in studio working on yet another album, it remains untitled as we speak. Zeitgeist www.sfblue.co.uk currently has all Superczar,SFB, and Jones Ave items instock, please pick up these albums. The Merrie Lockwood Art on the albums, are all limited edition. Merrie has done all the album covers so far. The album cover will be changed on the Superczar albums so pick one up w/ the original art while it's available. thru Zeitgeist. The Movie premiere is May 16th Suite 8, 290 MLK Jr. Drive SE, Atl, GA 30312 USA
p. 404.522.0655 • e. info@eyedrum.org • www.eyedrum.org
Please join forum at www.sfblue.co.uk so you can get news about the happenings of the Family of acts here at Zeitgeist. Atlanta is population of 4 million so a hour radio spot on college radio at Georgia Tech is excellent. Check out Kregs other movies at www.thunderbubble.com Kreg is going to do a video for us as well. Alot happening in the CZAR camp as we speak. 6 Lives is out now, a 25 minute mini album, there was 9 lives, but some technical diffculties shortened the life of the cat. So pick up 6 lives you might not live as long but its pretty good.Superczar consists of Brian Fowler and Gabe Holland, but Jones Ave. members Dr. Wisdo and John Joiner have contributed songs to the albums. Shuteye records is putting out the buzzlighter series w/ our new single "Haunted" on it. It will be available thru Zeitgeist and Shuteye.If you want to hear it click this link http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/537/superczar.html
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/318/jones_ave.html

Both links have Superczar music as well, as other great Zeitgeist Disto Artists.The buzzlighter link for our single is http://www.shuteyerecords.com/buzz4.html
It has the info about the cd.
You can catch Brian Fowler on tour this month w/ jones Ave. and Superczar dates are as follows:
May 9th 5:00 Album 88 Radio Interview w/ Superczar Atlanta Georgia Tech radio
May 10th Eufaula Alabama Lakepoint Park beside the dam show starts at 12 noon. On Lake Eufala
May 16th Eyedrum Atlanta Georgia
May 30th Scruffy Murphy's Irish Bar Downtown Columbus GA. Broadway Scruffy Murphys Irish Pub & Eatery, (706) 322-3460, 1037 Broadway, Columbus, GA 31901
June 15th Cannon Brew Pub
1041 Broadway 706-653-2337
Show Starts at 8:00
Remeber pick up the new SUPERCZAR cd's and watch for Buzzlighter 4 and the Sondtrack to the Movie as well. I will update soon about more releases by SUPERCZAR.........peace and Table Monkeys

>>By SFB,Superczar,Jones Ave. news (Saturday, 26 Apr 2003 16:12)

1965 Bob Harvey became the 3rd member and original bass player of Jefferson Airplane. His upright bass was part of the band's original acoustic and electric sound. But when the Airplane went all-electric in order to procure a recording contract, Bob's days were numbered.

In 1963 Bob was living in Burlingame, CA, where he co-founded a bluegrass outfit called the Slippery Rock String Band with Lee Cheney (flat picker) and Chuck McCabe (five-string banjo). As the group needed a bass player, Bob took up the upright bass.

SRSB made the rounds at other music clubs, including the Drinking Gourd in San Francisco, where Bob became friendly with Marty Balin, who was then singing with the Town Criers. As Bob recalls, on a Friday night in March 1965, he overheard Marty and his new acquaintance, Paul Kantner, discussing a new band they wanted to form. Upon hearing Marty say, "I want it to be a folk rock group,"

Bob turned and instantly volunteered his services. Attracted to the rock 'n' roll excitement generated by the Beatles, Bob wanted in on the action. The next day, he auditioned for what would soon become Jefferson Airplane.

"According to my journal, June 1965 was when the original lineup was finalized. Jerry Kaukonen had finally made the move from Santa Clara to an apartment in San Francisco and had informed us that he was now Jorma. Towards the end of June we met at Jorma's apartment on a weekend, got stoned and sat around making lists of names that seemed appropriate for the group. Jorma had listed his favorite Blues Musicians, among them was Blind Lemon Jefferson which everyone agreed was an absolute killer of a name. Jorma came up with a list of four or five Blind Jefferson names, among which was Blind Jefferson Airplane which blew us all away, but Paul said that while it was a very cool name, the public wouldn't accept it and we should have another name as our public name and keep Blind Jefferson Airplane as our "secret" name, but after a few days of everyone freaking on the name, we forgot the secret vs public, dropped the Blind and it was "Jefferson Airplane".

I firmly believe that the name played as important a part in making the group an almost instant success, as any of the music. There was no original music for a long time and I have a reel to reel tape recorded in the Matrix about August of 1965 that proves that it was a very rough sound indeed. The name was right, the timing was right. When Herb Cain wrote about the band in his column the stampede was on. We were good because everyone expected it. It was magic and the most exciting experience that I've ever had in my life."

At 30, Bob was significantly older than the rest of the band. Nevertheless, he described his tenure with the Airplane as the most exciting experience of his life. "The excitement was the newness of the whole scene in [San Francisco]," he said.

"We had identity. We were accepted, and we had status. Even the flower children in the park had it, but up on stage it was magnified 100 times and it was sweet." Below there are 2 pictures of Bob with the band: top pic - he is seated second from the left with the entire band, bottom pic - he is in a picture with Grace Slick in the background.

Jefferson Airplane Set Lists
Aug 13 1965 (Fri) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(first gig, opening night of the Matrix)
Sept 8 1965 (Wed) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(opened for JC Burris, cousin to Sonny Terry)
Sept 10, 1965 (Fri) Circle Star Theater, Redwood City, CA
(opened for Eric Burton & Animals)
Sep 21 1965 (Tue) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(opened for Lightning Hopkins)
Sep 22 1965 (Wed) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(opened for Lightning Hopkins)
Sep 22 1965 (Wed) - Coffee Gallery, North Beach CA
(guest set after the show at the Matrix)
Sep 23 1965 (Thu) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(opened for Lightning Hopkins)
Sep 24 1965 (Fri) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(opened for Lightning Hopkins)
Sep 25 1965 (Sat) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(opened for Lightning Hopkins)
Sep 26 1965 (Sun) - Matrix, San Francisco CA
(opened for Lightning Hopkins)
Oct 16 1965 (Sat) - Longshoreman's Hall, San Francisco CA
Oct 30 1965 (Sat) - Harmon Gymnasium, University of California, Berkeley CA (Jack Casady's first show, replacing Bob Harvey)

He met other musicians during / after he was part of Jefferson Airplane and used to hang out with many of them. He has a song called "Wild Flowers" (lyrics & music by Bob Harvey) and a monologue called "Prinderella" on Paul Williams "Holy Mackerel" album. "The album cover shown does not have my picture. The album cover with my picture was changed when I left the group. The reason I left was Paul's refusal to let me sing my own song "Wild Flowers" on the album."

Below are some comments by Producer/Director Jack Genero after he saw the San Francisco Blue album Idiot's Vision on Carnium Music - January 2001 Album of the Month:

Name: Jack Genero
From: Los Angeles, USA
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2001 16:46
Comments: Looks like a lot of head energy went into bringing this web site together.
I just spotted your January’s 2001 choice album, "San Francisco Blue" Their goes Bob Harvey. CD/Album producer, songwriter, singer, musician. He’s got it all goin’ on.

Well, I knew Bob Harvey when he was working as an actor in Hollywood. I know because he starred in two feature films for me.

In the first film he played the featured roll by starring as Charles Manson (the well known Sharon Tate murderer). The second film was called HARD RIDE TO THE MOVIES, it was the story of a motorcycle gang that crashes a Hollywood movie studio only to make themselves the stars of the of their movie.

It must be his point of convergence coming together. Good Luck on your music Bob.

Jack Genero
Producer/Director
Charles Manson Story
Hard Ride To The Movies

Bob Harvey - Journal Entry, October 23, 2001
The absolute number one, most important thing that happened to me, as a founding member of Jefferson Airplane in 1965, was the kindling of a burning desire to write. That drive has lasted for the last 36 years.

There have been many experiences in my life that have inspired lyrics, but by far the most important was the tragedy on September 11, 2001. The shock of that event brought all my creative juices to a hard boil. Out of that came by far the most painful and disturbing lyrics I have ever written. The song is called "Comes a Time" and it was written from the viewpoint of those on the united flight that crashed in Pennsylvania - for they surely knew that they were about to die.

I would like to find a radio station that would promote the sale of the CD (single) and donate 100% of the proceeds to the Salvation Army in New York City, for distribution to the families of those who died in the towers.

E-mail Bob Harvey any questions or comments.

Idiot Vision & Comes A Time CD's available!

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