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That's why it annoys me.
>>By Flagg (Monday, 4 Sep 2006 13:13)
Planet ear you will find i asked you to go out and explore and find your own definition of emo to then be part of our conversation actually.
We have all said what emo was like around us, and for your information i am not the only one who finds emo completely pathetic so if you want to say that im putting people down or however you chose to see it then fine but dont generalise it to just me because if you look back i am far from lonely on that front. You only find emo as a term of abuse because youve seen it here but dont understand why we have said it, but its not our fault you dont relate to anything of what we have said.
Too right tekken is the best bunch of beat em up games, ive played on loads of em, but non of them are as good. Infact even if i hadnt have played tekken some of them would be absolutely piss poor anywau just because the quality of game play is bollocks. The dead or alive games, are ok but nothing speacial, there was another one that was decent, soul something, i cant remember, you got some really good combos and weapon usage on it. The mortal combat games where utterly disappointing though, i expected far better from them.
And final fantasy, urg! The games are addictive but i dont get why, i got well fed up with them.
sk8er..."I believe the point of the discussion before planet ear ruined it was that those people we have categorised as emo (for their dress sense, obsession with myspace and musical taste) are perceived as a problem in society because of their irresponsible attitude - spookygoth has cited more than enough examples of this and although emos are not as bad as chavs, they are generally slightly more intelligent and can be associated with other alternatives, myself included! This apparent invasion of our scene is a threat..."
That sounds about right yes indeed.
Flagg its sooooo true about emos and myspace! It is unbelievable sometimes, was it emos that created these whore train things? You put you pic on a list of other pics and post it on everyones bulletins or something in the hope to get a mass amount of random friends, they also have obessions with them really annoying Gif images that have stupid messages on... like "the truth is if you stabbed me in the chest i would with one last dying breath apologise for bleeding on your shirt" and "emo love is like a rainbow it never has an ending" (copied from my friends myspace icons and hes recently gone emo, poor thing). Absolutely loads of them things, and beg for pic comments every 5 minutes.
>>By spookygoth (Monday, 4 Sep 2006 17:46)
planet ear, you're right about the quotation marks, but it doesn't seem that my dictionary defines emo as a term of abuse in this context... in the context of this board, it refers to a group of people who are not intrinsically bad as emos, but do things which we've been describing for long enough so I'm not gonna repeat...
>>By Sk8a H8a (Monday, 4 Sep 2006 18:51)
Surely someone highly conversant with the English language could work out out that a defintion given "in the present context" qualifies it and alludes to the possibility of other definitions in other contexts? Thus I don't seem "to believe emo is just a term of abuse" at all, I just haven't presented any other defintion....... nor am I, presently, particularly interested in doing so.
Thank you for withdrawing your accusations of slander and offering your fulsome apology which I accept.
>>By planet ear (Monday, 4 Sep 2006 22:54)
Well Final Fantasy are story games see, you play them for the same reason you'd watch a film or read a book. I think they're easier to appreciate if you're aware of that before you play them. I can see why alot of people don't like them.
But they're my absolute favourites and I'm playing one right now, so I DON'T CARE ABOUT INVERTED COMMAS OR EMO KIDS OR PLANET EAR OR WHATEVER ELSE IS BEING DISCUSSED XD
>>By Flagg (Monday, 4 Sep 2006 23:34)
..... and indeed why should you? :)
>>By planet ear (Tuesday, 5 Sep 2006 00:03)
lol i did like them awhile ago i played the final fantasy games religiously, but then i got severely fed up with them and i look back now and think why did i spend so long with them. It was the same with PSO for gamecube, i was absoltely addicted to that game and i never really did much on it.
Tekken is by far the best game ive ever played though, well for playstation and ps2 anyway. Im still in love with mega drive games i used to play them constantly as a child and i still do.
Thats something they could do with on this site, a gaming discussion, they have discuss and discover music, movies and literature why not gaming? Im positive alot of people would participate.
>>By spookygoth (Tuesday, 5 Sep 2006 01:04)
Gaming and sports, perhaps...
"in the context of this board, it refers to a group of people who are not intrinsically bad as emos"
Or were you referring to some other "present context"? You're so emo, planet ear
>>By Sk8a H8a (Tuesday, 5 Sep 2006 09:23)
Are you being deliberately obtuse Sk8er?
>>By planet ear (Tuesday, 5 Sep 2006 12:27)
I've thought that too, gaming forums.
Heheh, well I've spent an awful lot of time playing FF too, but I don't regret it :)
>>By Flagg (Tuesday, 5 Sep 2006 17:44)
nooooooo I'm nooooooooot... are you being deliberately arrogant, planet ear?
>>By Sk8a H8a (Tuesday, 5 Sep 2006 20:29)
How unfortunate for you.
>>By planet ear (Wednesday, 6 Sep 2006 01:17)
gaming forums would be a mint idea. Ive seen other sites with them and the amount of people who post in them is like insane. I would be utterly obssessed with a Sega forum, i got loads of adaptors for my mega drive so i can play master system games and foreign imports. I didnt know they had so many sega games when i was little but i must own over a hundred. Trying to get hold of the saturn converter aswell but it will cost me a fortune to get my hands on one of them.
>>By spookygoth (Wednesday, 6 Sep 2006 16:10)
Nobody gonna answer my question?! "can one be emo without conforming to spookygoth's perception of the stereotypical emo and without listening to emo music?"
>>By Sk8a H8a (Thursday, 7 Sep 2006 01:03)
since we have discovered that emo is different depending on where you go then shouldnt the answer be yes. I found my "stereotypical" view to be true in the manchester area, however we were told that they didnt do the same thing else where, but were still emo. And since nobody seems to agree on what bands are actually classed as emo or not then i guess the answer is still yes, becoz i bet even emos fall out about which bands are emo and which ones are not.
>>By spookygoth (Thursday, 7 Sep 2006 12:43)
Maybe all you need to be emo is to call yourself emo. And maybe if you say ''I'm not emo' then you're not even if you have the dyedest hair and the lowest-slung jeans in the world.
>>By Flagg (Thursday, 7 Sep 2006 22:08)
I'm emo
>>By Sk8a H8a (Thursday, 7 Sep 2006 23:19)
but is that not just denial if an emo says they arnt emo? Since emo doesnt really have great credit its not something that many people would admit to even if they were. I mean alot of people hate labelling but it doesnt mean they arent what people claim they are.
>>By spookygoth (Friday, 8 Sep 2006 01:54)
What an extraordinarily egocentric worldview.....
>>By planet ear (Friday, 8 Sep 2006 05:21)
I'm emo too.
>>By scarletnikki (Friday, 8 Sep 2006 14:55)
Why is that egocentric?
>>By Flagg (Friday, 8 Sep 2006 14:56)
its not egocentric,its a viewpoint.
>>By scarletnikki (Friday, 8 Sep 2006 16:05)
Because she wishes to define the word for herself, regardless of other societal usage, attributes her own value scheme to it regardless of other societal values, and ultimately appears to conclude anyone who challenges her perceptions of "emoness" and the labeling she attributes is possibly in denial! Wittgenstein proposed that there could be no such thing as a private language, that seems to me a reasonable proposition. To me Spooky is in danger of wishing her language to be so self-defined that it is no longer valuable to me.
>>By planet ear (Friday, 8 Sep 2006 17:08)
Sigur Ros write songs in their own language.
Well it's not a proper language, it's just nonsense, but it sounds like a language.
Anyway, I think you're overreacting planet. Language is a subjective thing anyway. And remember English isn't always capable of saying exactly what we mean to say.
>>By Flagg (Friday, 8 Sep 2006 23:54)
actually youll find that was a question not a factful statement. jesus crist lad get a life. Find a new target coz im not the only one who thinks your pointless finger pointing is pathetic now.
I was asking a question.. i never once said it was a statement of complete truth, or that nobody elses opinion mattered at all, at the end of the day your the one deciding that you think MY opinion is pointless along with any others that you dont understand or like not me. The question mark implies i would like other imput. Well valid imput.
>>By spookygoth (Saturday, 9 Sep 2006 01:47)
Well pretty obviously something sounding like language doesn't mean it IS language.
I'm afraid I'm not sure that I agree with your other points either. Maybe language of itself isn't best described as either objective or subjective but as having accepted meanings within its parent society? Maybe the quality of use of language determines how well we can express our impressions? Maybe for a native speaker it is clarity of logical thinking that is confined by ones ability to use the language?
But I'm not inclined to debate those ideas here at present I'm afraid.....
>>By planet ear (Saturday, 9 Sep 2006 02:26)
*roles eyes and shakes head*
>>By spookygoth (Saturday, 9 Sep 2006 13:09)
I believe most people would accept spookygoth's definition of emo and if you choose not to accept it, perhaps that's indicative of your desire not to communicate with us but instead to separate yourself from the group and gain attention? Well done - you're very good at being emo
>>By Sk8a H8a (Saturday, 9 Sep 2006 14:31)
I wonder what the world would be like if the Roman Empire had survived and was in control of fifty per cent or more of the modern world.
>>By Flagg (Saturday, 9 Sep 2006 23:43)
Sk8er you believe most people would accept Spookys' definition? Either yet more egocentric drivel or the work of a moron surely? "Most people" includes goat-herders in Tibet, Lords of the Realm, OAPs, those suffering in Iraq currently, rice farmers in China does it? I suspect most people have never even heard the term let alone pondered its meaning enough to form a view. Get over yourselves..... it's terribly unimportant what emo is or isn't in the grand scheme of things except to avery few rather small-minded western teenagers and media types, it's a shame however that you appear unable or unwilling to gain a little insight into the nature of prejudice and perhaps better critical thinking...... you might actually be able to apply those skills at some point in your adult lives.
>>By planet ear (Sunday, 10 Sep 2006 20:55)
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